These Last Days News - February 12, 2024
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Francis ‘Is Very Much In Favor of the Female Diaconate,’ Claims Nun Invited To Address Vatican Cardinals...

"Already We hear you clamor for the ordination of woman.  No woman shall stand in My House to represent Me!  How dare you bring in this heresy to My House!  I shall go among you and I shall sling you out from My temples!" Jesus - December 27, 1975

Veronica reads the following:
"The conduct of women during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass shall be one of silence.  No woman shall speak out during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.[1]    Women must wear head coverings when they enter the House of God.[2]  The House of God is a place of prayer, and not a meeting place or dance hall.  No woman shall speak from the pulpit.  No woman shall enter the ministry."[3]  December 7, 1976   [1]1 Cor 14:34-35; [2] 1 Cor 11:5-10; [3] 1 Tim 2:9-15.

LifeSiteNews.com reported on February 12, 2024:

by Michael Haynes

A nun who recently addressed Pope Francis and his C9 group of cardinals attests Francis “is very much in favor of the female diaconate,” though has no immediate plans to implement it. 

“We already know that the Pope is very much in favor of the female diaconate, but it is still something we are trying to understand how to put into practice,” stated Sister Linda Pocher. 

Speaking to Europa Press on February 8, Pocher – daughter of Mary Help of Christians and professor of Christology and Mariology at the Pontifical Faculty of Educational Sciences Auxilium in Rome – revealed inside details about the recent C9 meeting of Pope Francis’ close advisors.

The meeting had continued looking at the C9’s current theme of the “role of women in the Church,” and included Anglican female bishop Jo Bailey Wells as one of three women who gave testimonies to the assembled group. 

Pocher attested that the “diaconate was also discussed” during the meetings.

She added that Francis “is changing the way of thinking and living the difference between the ordained ministry and the baptismal priesthood, extending to all the baptized some rights that until recently belonged to bishops, priests or religious.”

Pocher stated that the Pope had asked her to organize the meeting, presumably meaning in terms of organizing the guest presentations which she made, alongside Wells and a Catholic religious Giuliva Di Berardino. 

“I thought it would be interesting to confront the experience of the Anglican Church in this regard,” Pocher stated, explaining why she invited Anglican prelate Jo Bailey Wells. Pocher revealed she asked Wells to discuss “what kind of process they followed to arrive at the decision to ordain women and to tell how this has changed life in their Church [Anglican Church]. So what she did was to relate an experience, which we then discussed with the cardinals and the Pope.”

Meanwhile Berardino was tasked by Pocher with speaking on “the possible ministries for women in the Catholic Church, on the possibilities that are really feasible now in the Catholic Church.”

While outlining the Pope’s alleged personal support for female deacons, Pocher added that “there is no reflection on the priestly ordination of women in the Catholic Church.”

She also stated how while the C9 cardinals were “very willing to listen,” and a “rich and open dialogue” took place, there was no unanimous support for the female diaconate. Some were “less” open than their fellow cardinals at the meeting, she said, citing that such opposition was perhaps linked to “culture” and cultural norms – in a comment likely aimed at Africa’s leading prelate, Cardinal Fridolin Ambongo, who led resistance to Fiducia Supplicans based on Africa’s cultural stance.

“The cardinals who are on the Council are all pastors of local churches,” she said. “So they also come burdened with the sensitivities of their own people.” 

Pocher argued that the “question of women in the Church takes on different nuances,” noting that “in some countries there is still a lack of opportunities for them to study.” 

“So we have to focus on that first; in other countries, however, we know that there is an explicit demand for greater participation at the Church level and also through the ministries,” she stated.

Catholic teaching on female deacons

In his 1994 Apostolic Letter Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, Pope John Paul II wrote, “I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.” 

In 2002, the Vatican’s International Theological Commission wrote after much study that,

1. The deaconesses mentioned in the tradition of the ancient Church — as evidenced by the rite of institution and the functions they exercised — were not purely and simply equivalent to the deacons;
2. The unity of the sacrament of Holy Orders, in the clear distinction between the ministries of the bishop and the priests on the one hand and the diaconal ministry on the other, is strongly underlined by ecclesial tradition, especially in the teaching of the Magisterium.

In 2018, the prefect of the CDF, Cardinal Ladaria Ferrer, S.J., defended the teaching of Ordinatio sacerdotalis as bearing the mark of “infallibility,” with John Paul II having “formally confirmed and made explicit, so as to remove all doubt, that which the Ordinary and Universal Magisterium has long considered throughout history as belonging to the deposit of faith.”

Pope’s position and synod’s ‘urgent’ calls

The Holy See Press Office has not provided comment on Pocher’s description of the Pope’s alleged support for female deacons, nor is any clarification expected, given the practice of remaining silent even in light of controversial interviews such as those conducted by the late Eugenio Scalfari.

Just last week, Pope Francis spoke to the Dicastery for Divine Worship about how “the woman herself has a very great symbol in the Church as a woman, without reducing it to ministeriality.” Such comments were interpreted as papal arguments against advocating for female deacons. 

Indeed, in a book-length interview released last year, Francis strongly argued against female deacons or priests. On the topic of female priests, Francis stated that “this is a theological problem” that, if attempts were made to include women in the priestly ministry, could “undermine the essence of the Church.”

Francis stated how “holy orders are reserved for men,” and added that he did not support the argument that the implementation of female ordinands could perhaps bolster Church attendance.

Nevertheless, Francis has opened the door to confusion on the issue in the past by establishing two commissions to discuss the topic of female deacons, despite Catholic teaching on the topic being clear and unchanging. 

The first was a 12-member commission to study the issue of women deacons in August 2016, which included leading advocate of ordaining women deacons Phyllis Zagano and Cardinal Luis Ladaria Ferrer as its president. The second was set up in 2020, in light of the 2019 Amazon Synod, but neither has published their findings.  

The 2023 Synod of Synodality interim report called for the results of both studies to be presented at the October 2024 synod meetings, in light of the 2023 synod meeting calling for “theological and pastoral research” on the female diaconate to continue.

The 2023 synod report contained numerous calls for more women to assume governance roles in the Church, a topic deemed to be “urgent.”

"Already We hear you clamor for the ordination of woman.  No woman shall stand in My House to represent Me!  How dare you bring in this heresy to My House!  I shall go among you and I shall sling you out from My temples!" Jesus - December 27, 1975

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Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak but to be subject, as also the law saith.  But if they would learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is a shame for a woman to speak in the church.  1 Cor 14:34-35

But every woman praying or prophesying (teaching) with her head not covered disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.  For if a woman be not covered, let her be shorn.  But if it be a shame to a woman to be shorn or made bald, let her cover her head.  The man indeed ought not to cover his head: because he is the image and glory of God. But the woman is the glory of the man.  For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.  For the man was not created for the woman: but the woman for the man.  Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels.  1 Cor 11:5-10

In like manner, women also in decent apparel: adorning themselves with modesty and sobriety, not with plaited hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly attire:  But, as it becometh women professing godliness, with good works.  Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.  But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence.  For Adam was first formed; then Eve.  And Adam was not seduced; but the woman, being seduced, was in the transgression.  Yet she shall be saved through child bearing; if she continue in faith and love and sanctification with sobriety.  1 Tim 2:9-15

And Adam said: The woman, whom thou gavest me to be my companion, gave me of the tree, and I did eat.  And the Lord God said to the woman: Why hast thou done this? And she answered: The serpent deceived me, and I did eat....  To the woman also he said: I will multiply thy sorrows, and thy conceptions: in sorrow shalt thou bring forth children, and thou shalt be under thy husband’s power, and he shall have dominion (authority) over thee.  And to Adam he said: Because thou hast hearkened to the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee, that thou shouldst not eat, cursed is the earth in thy work: with labour and toil shalt thou eat thereof all the days of thy life.  Thorns and thistles shall it bring forth to thee, and thou shalt eat the herbs of the earth.  In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth out of which thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and into dust thou shalt return.  Gen 3:12-13, 3:16-19

St. Paul - "Listen, My child, how satan has corrupted the word."
    Veronica - And now he's becoming quite angry and pointing, jabbing with his finger the Book, and saying:
    St. Paul - "Observe: Women shall be meek in the presence of their husbands.  We hear the call of 'liberation'!  Whom shall woman be liberated to but satan!
    "A man, as a figure of the Christ, my child, shall be the head of his household.  So it is from the Lord.
    "A woman shall adorn herself not in pearls and braided hair, but in goodness and piety and good example to her children.  A woman will not expose her body as a pagan.  What manner of example has she given to her children?  Woe to the parent who brings scandal to her children!
   "Woman, remove your arrogance!  You are searching in darkness.  As a sign of reverence, you will cover your head.  It is not that I call it custom, My children; it is that the angels demand this in the presence of the Sacrifice, Mass!" - St. Paul, March 22, 1975

 "You will remove woman from My Church, as leaders and rulers.  Of what?  What manner of foul action do you promote?
    "In the beginning I gave to you, through your prophets, the establishment of My Church upon earth.  The rules were simple but now have become changed and defiled to please the carnal nature of mankind.  You must restore the holiness to My House!  You must bend your knees in humility and penance." Jesus, December 31, 1975

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ONLY MEN
"In the Holy Sacrifice that I left with you, I did not ask for women to be upon the altar, nor try to be a high priestess. They carry this on in the churches of satan; therefore, it shall not be carried on in My Church.
   "When I had the Last Supper with the Apostles, My Mother was not present.  If I had it in My power from the Eternal Father to make a priestess, I would surely have chosen My Mother; but, no, there were no women present at the first Dedication." - Jesus, October 2, 1987

HERESY
"Already We hear you clamor for the ordination of woman. No woman shall stand in My House to represent Me!  How dare you bring in this heresy to My House! I shall go among you and I shall sling you out from My temples!" - Jesus, December 27, 1975

WOMAN'S  GLORY
"As a Mother, My heart is torn, for the example of many mothers on earth is poor. Woman, who has come from Adam, would regain her glory by childbearing. This, too, has she cast aside for the ways of darkness. No longer does she seek to purge her soul and to enter the Kingdom of the Father. Her sins multiply, for no longer does she not only miss the opportunity of purging, but she has committed murder! All the evils of the flesh.
     "Women of the world reject their places as helpmates to their husbands. What manner of creature have they become? The Day of the Lord approaches fast upon you, for what has been foretold is coming to pass." - Our Lady of the Roses, Mary Help of Mothers, March 24, 1974

ONLY EXCEPTION
"Only in dire need of death shall a man - I say a man, not a woman or a child-shall a man be given the power through the legally-ordained priest to bring in urgency and haste the Host to the dying!
    "This debasement to My Son's Body shall not go unpunished! - Our Lady of the Roses, August 21, 1975

READ  ST. PAUL
"All who have received the Holy Spirit have consecrated hands. And I say unto you none but legally-ordained priests in My House shall bring My Body to the multitudes! No woman shall stand in the holy place! No woman shall vie or compete for rulership in My House. I say unto you, you must go back and read the Commandments of the Eternal Father; you must go back and read the rules that Paul gave to you. You cast him aside and you write another book, a bible, a tome; you write it to suit your own basic carnal human nature." - Jesus, July 15, 1977

NOT  TO  BE  RULERS  IN  THE  CHURCH
"You will remove woman from My Church, as leaders and rulers. Of what?  What manner of foul action do you promote?
     "In the beginning I gave to you, through your prophets, the establishment of My Church upon earth. The rules were simple but now have become changed and defiled to please the carnal nature of mankind. You must restore the holiness to My House! You must bend your knees in humility and penance." - Jesus, December 31, 1975

WOMEN WILL NOT DRESS AS MEN
"I refuse any soul the privilege of being with My Mother unless properly attired. Women will not dress as men in Her presence, nor will women condone the attire during their earthly existence. Can you not sacrifice for Me? Better the abuse of the flesh than the fire to the soul." - Jesus, February 28, 1971

PENETRATE THE HEART
"I repeat the warning from Heaven that man shall not dress as woman and woman shall not adopt the attire of a man, because the external indications, My children, soon penetrate the heart and expose a darkness of spirit. Many shall judge you by your attire." - Our Lady of the Roses, Mary Help of Mothers, September 6, 1975

"YOU  DEFY  THE  ETERNAL  FATHER"
"Women of your nation and all of the nations of the world, the Eternal Father shall send a grievous boil upon you, for you have become unchaste, for you have become immodest, and you have cast aside your role as a woman, as a mother, and as a bearer of  children for the Eternal Father in Heaven.
     "Woman of the world, you have chosen to become murderers, killing your young.  You defy the Eternal Father in your quest for luxury and pleasure.  You have cast aside your role as women and have aligned yourselves with homosexuality and lesbianism, and as such you corrupt the young.  Woe to a generation that has made sin a way of life." - Our Lady of the Roses, Mary Help of Mothers, June 1, 1978

LIBERATION?
"Paganism will not be tolerated by the Father, neither in your lay life nor in the House of My Son. It is an abomination for women to speak in the House of God! I hear a word—defilement of man, liberation? My child, what is this liberation women ask for? Satan has created the plan for their destruction. Take your Bible, take the Book of life and study it and learn!" - Our Lady of the Roses, Mary Help of Mothers, July 15, 1974

REBELLING AGAINST  HER  DESTINY
"My child, make it known to the world that woman must return to her place as woman, for she has been misled. Was it not woman who fell to satan in the beginning?
   "Her disobedience to the will of God brings much sorrow upon her and her children. It would be better now, My children, if woman would be silent, for she does not know the road she is traveling. It is only satan who has set her to rebel against her destiny." - Our Lady of the Roses, Mary Help of Mothers, March 24, 1974

DESECRATION
"My child, you ask why I cry? I shed tears of great anguish. I watch anew the desecration to My Son's Body being committed upon earth. None shall place their hands upon His Body!
    "My Son has given you in trust those He has chosen among mankind to represent Him-your priests. None others shall carry My Son to mankind! You shall not defile His Body by giving Him into the hands of women, or those that have not been prepared by the Father as legally-ordained priests in the houses of God-laziness, preoccupied with the world and the pleasures of the flesh!" - Our Lady of the Roses, November 1, 1974

FAR  SUPERIOR
"A priest, My children, is a chosen man of God. A true legally-ordained priest is far superior than any man, as he represents Me in the Godhead."  Jesus, May 23, 1979

VOCATIONS
"If you are willing to ask the Eternal Father, and if you do not give yourselves over to doctrines of demons, you will have priests sufficient to carry out the ministry."  Jesus, May 23, 1979

WOMAN'S  GLORY
"Woman, who has come from Adam, would regain her glory by childbearing. This, too, has she cast aside for the ways of darkness."  Our Lady of the Roses, Mary Help of Mothers, March 24, 1974

JUST PUNISHMENT AND BANISHMENT
"Therefore, I warn you now as your God: You will stop your intricacies within My Church. You will stop experimenting. I gave you the rules to follow many years ago, two thousand years approximately. And why now, two thousand years later, do you deem it necessary to change My Church upon earth? I, your God, say to you, you will be judged accordingly. You will return My Church to its former glory, and in that manner you will have more vocations and more entering the seminaries, and not fleeing from them as they hear the heresies and all other innovations that are going on within My Church. This is My last and final word to My clergy: Change now or suffer a just punishment and banishment.” - Jesus, June 18, 1986 

SEMINARIES
"You will return My Church to its former glory, and in that manner you will have more vocations and more entering the seminaries, and not fleeing from them as they hear the heresies and all other innovations that are going on within My Church."  Jesus, June 18, 1986

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