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Post-Conciliar Spirit, by Dietrich von Hildebrand...
"Bishops in My Son's House, Church, you have gone astray. You have scattered Our sheep. You have joined with all manner of heretics and false teachers. You started with good intentions in your Council, but you became deluded in your search for peace and brotherhood. You allowed all manner of error to creep slowly into My Son's House, Church. You must understand that you are setting in motion the formation of a World Council of Churches, but it will not be the Church of My Son. It will be a church of man, a church without the true foundation." - Our Lady of the Roses, June 5, 1976
Dietrich von Hildebrand, called by Pope Pius XII "the 20th Century Doctor of the Church,” was one of the world's most eminent Catholic philosophers. Cardinal Ratzinger (Pope Benedict) wrote about Dietrich von Hildebrand in the year 2000: "I am firmly convinced that, when at some time in the future, the intellectual history of the Catholic Church in the 20th century is written, the name of Dietrich von Hildebrand will be most prominent among the figures of our time." No other Catholic writer has so thoroughly echoed the message of Our Lady of the Roses than Dietrich von Hildebrand:
The professional avant-gardists in the Church today never tire of telling us of the Christian faith in the post-conciliar epoch—of the changes called for by the "post-conciliar spirit." These vague slogans conceal a tendency to replace the infallible magisterium and unchanging faith of the Church with something else, something new. I am reminded of the famous program of the German National Socialist Party, which in paragraph 17 declared that it accepted Christianity insofar as it corresponded to the "Nordic ethos." In that case too the divinely revealed doctrine of the Church was supposed to subordinate itself to an extremely vague and, moreover, purely natural norm.
But does not the expression "post-conciliar spirit" refer to the "spirit of Vatican II"? And is it not, therefore, something precise and Christian? But even if this were the intended meaning, the effect would be to represent the Second Vatican Council (the "spirit" of its decrees) as an ultimate norm that is played off against the former Councils—above all, against the Council of Trent. Now, the moment one implies that one council has rendered others outmoded, irrelevant, the question immediately arises: Whence does one derive the conviction that the truth of the Holy Spirit is to be found more in this council than in others? In the first place, even if a council could err in its dogmatic definitions, there is no reason to suppose that the latest council is less exposed to error than former ones.
But, of course, any contradiction in defined dogma is incompatible with the infallible magisterium of the Church. Any implication, therefore, that Vatican II has in any way abrogated dogmatic expositions of former councils calls into question the divine institution and perpetual guarantee of the Catholic faith. Furthermore, the Second Vatican Council made no dogmatic definitions: Its purpose was strictly pastoral in nature. And Vatican II declared expressis verbis the continuity of the "spirit" of its utterances with that of former councils. The Holy Father gave a clear answer to those who wish to treat Vatican II as a kind of beginning of the authentic Christian revelation, as a new norm against which the teachings of former Councils must be measured: "The teachings of the Council do not constitute a complete, organic system of Catholic doctrine. Doctrine is much more extensive, as everyone knows, and it is not called into question by the Council nor substantively modified" (Address of Pope Paul VI, Jan. 12, 1966).
But in reality the propagators of the "post-conciliar spirit" do not truly identify it with the spirit of the decrees of Vatican II. The term itself—"post-conciliar spirit," "post-conciliar Church"—clearly suggests that something quite different is meant. Often this is openly and frankly admitted as at the [1967] Toronto Congress, where the Vatican Council was seen by some speakers as only a beginning but as not fully expressing the "post-conciliar spirit." In fact, this conveniently vague notion has no basis in the infallible magisterium of the Church. It represents, rather, a mentality nourished by historical relativism and at the service of that fictional creature "modern man."
Yet, the "post-conciliar spirit" cannot justly designate the state of the Church after Vatican II, for no one can deny that there are contradictory currents within the framework of the Church today, not one trend that embraces all Catholics. Thus, it is not even possible to speak of a "post-conciliar spirit" that is analogous to the "post-Tridentine mentality." The Council of Trent imposed through its precise and emphatic definitions of faith a lucid unity of spirit on the hierarchy, clergy, and all the faithful, a spirit that stamped the time which we know today as the Counter-Reformation.
If we wish to know precisely in what the new modernism that calls itself the "post-conciliar spirit" consists, we have only to turn to the numerous warnings of the Holy Father. If we examine the speeches and writings of the heralds of the "post-conciliar spirit," we shall find that the real content of this spirit is the desire to conform to "modern times," "the scientific age," to "man come of age." (Of course, the new norm is as much a mere speciality of a single epoch as the National Socialist "ethos of the Nordic race" was a specialty of a single people.)
"If we wish to know precisely in what the new modernism that calls itself the "post-conciliar spirit" consists, we have only to turn to the numerous warnings of the Holy Father. If we examine the speeches and writings of the heralds of the "post-conciliar spirit," we shall find that the real content of this spirit is the desire to conform to "modern times," "the scientific age," to "man come of age."
This modernization of the Church is put forward as an attempt to deepen the truth of Christian revelation, to free the deposit of Catholic faith of "mythological elements." But in making the alleged mentality of our epoch the criterion of the faith, these post-conciliar spirits are only replacing the perennial faith with short-lived and often self-contradictory slogans. The fashionable theories that fill the air are usually no more than sophisticated superstitions. In choosing these as the norm for their alleged deepening of the Christian truth, the post-conciliarites have, in reality, set the wolf to mind the sheep.
Perhaps the most pervasive manifestation of the "post-conciliar spirit" is the unrestricted freedom many assume in the discussion of religious matters, a penchant for re-examining the dogmas, instead of accepting the deposit of Catholic faith as transmitted infallibly by the Church. But when these post-conciliar persons assert that the Church must be adapted to the mentality of our epoch, they had in mind meeting all the objections that are made against the Church—notionly by the Protestant denominations but also by the "world." The deepest desire of some of our progressives seems to be to measure up in the eyes of the world. But this attitude in no way grows out of a genuine thirst for truth, but comes, rather, from an unwarranted respect for the opinions of the world and from fear of the world’s censure; it comes from having chosen to replace the infallible magisterium of the Church with certain contemporary opinions.
The absurdity of all these perversions of the faith is most flagrant in those who assert that they are deepening the truth, after first having proclaimed that there is no "static truth." This self-contradictory position, born out of radical historical relativism, would (if it were possible to take it seriously) make all striving for truth senseless, the appeal to truth an empty gesture, and faith and religion utterly meaningless.
Of course, the unchangeable character of the Church is a scandal to the world and the worldly. But the Catholic should rather affirm this unchangeableness as a sign of her supernatural foundation: "Lo! The fair form of the ancient Church rises up at once, as fresh and vigorous as if she had never intermitted her growth. She is the same as she was three centuries ago, ere the present religions of the country existed, you know her to be the same; it is the charge brought against her that she does not change; time and place affect her not, because she has her source where there is neither place nor time, because she comes from the throne of the Illimitable Eternal God" (John Henry Cardinal Newman, "Prospects of the Catholic Missioner" in Discourses to Mixed Congregations).
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"The great Council, the Council that has brought forth discord, disunity, and the loss of souls, the major fact behind this destruction was because of the lack of prayer. Satan sat in within this Council, and he watched his advantage. He is now playing a game of chess with the Red Hats and the Purple Hats, moving them with great glee as he watches the evil accelerate, and all manners of people are flowing fast through the doors of the Holy City and all ecumenical bodies." - St. Michael, March 18, 1976
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"O My children, recognize, I
repeat, the signs of your times. You are fast selling yourselves into slavery.
Your government and the governments of the world are now almost in full control
of the agents of hell. The forces of 666 are firmly entrenched in your
government, in the clergy—your pastors, your shepherds, your bishops; even satan
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"My children, the Council of Vatican II was started with good intent, but the
doors were opened to all manner of heretics, causing a slow pollution of the
Faith. My children, you must now awaken the pastors from their slumber! They
have given themselves over now to a new religion of man." - Our Lady, July
25, 1977
ALL
MANNER OF PROMISES
"All manner of promises were made at the Council in Rome, Vatican II. The road
to hell is often paved with good intentions.
"I have warned you in the past and I warn you again: you cannot compromise
your Faith with the enemies of your God. In many countries throughout your world
it appears, My children—and I say appears—that the Communist country leaders are
permitting religion within their rule. This is a sham, My children, a cover-up
for the fact that it is state-controlled. The propaganda machines send out much
propaganda that deceives the public and those who are willing to believe all
given out in the medias." - Our Lady, May 13, 1978
SATAN WAS PRESENT
"You will not destroy My Son's House, Church, by consorting with the enemies of
My Son! You will not convert the enemy by lowering the standards. Your example
must be one of a steadfast faith.
"Change! What need is change when the foundation has stood through the test
of time? It is a dissatisfied man, a greedy and lustful man who seeks change.
Does he change to bring man to God? No! He changes to take man from God and give
him to Lucifer!
"Satan was present, he listened with careful ears at the great Council. He
awaited every move, and he placed his agents among you! Recognize and
reconstruct your path. You have been deluded. You are on the wrong road. Turn
about now, or you will sow the seeds for your own destruction!
"How many warnings will you receive before the hand of your Father will
descend upon you? No date do I give unto all mankind, but only to few. All those
who accept the grace given freely for the asking will not be caught unawares.
They will prepare themselves. All mankind upon earth should prepare for his
death.
"We look upon a world where mankind goes about defaming himself and the
Father, wallowing in all manners of lust and pleasure, abomination—even in the
House of God! He lives as though he never will die. No human flesh will be
eternal, but the soul is eternal and will live on forever." - Our Lady,
August 14, 1974
“DO
NOT DESERT MY CHURCH”
"My children, do not cast aside your sacramentals. They are your armor in the
days ahead. Do not desert My Church. Do not judge it by the man who has stood
there in ignorance or in pride and changed it until it will almost be
unrecognizable. I am still with you, My children. Do not leave. You must stay
and fight. In this manner, My children, shall the sheep be separated from the
goats. It is a form of cleansing." – Jesus, July
15, 1977
DO NOT
ACCEPT
"My children, you must retain Tradition; you must retain a firm foundation of
your faith by keeping all of the good publications. Do not accept the changes
that have been made by satan to seduce your souls.” – Jesus,
November 19, 1977
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The young are being indoctrinated to accept changes which will take away
Tradition and even doctrine. Our Lady said we must all pray a constant vigilance
of prayer. It has a great power over the demons. –
November 19, 1977
NOT
FROM HOLY SPIRIT
"I must, My child, make it known at this time that you must go back in the
immediate years and bring the knowledge to mankind that these changes, the
changes that have given bad fruits, have not been given to you through the Holy
Spirit and through your Vicar, Pope Paul VI. It is the web of satan reaching
out. Many are now, My child, puppets. The strings are being pulled by Benelli,
Villot, and Casaroli and their followers.” – Our Lady,
September 27, 1975
YOU
HAVE STRAYED
"O My children, how far you have strayed from the truth! The knowledge given to
you by your prophets were written down in truth to guide you, but now you change
the words to suit your basic carnal human natures. Go back and read, My
children, the true words of your prophets. But do not accept changes in the
Book, for these changes have been promoted by satan. Heresy, O mournful heresy,
whatever shall become of you!
"Parents, I caution you anew to guard the souls of your children by your
teaching and example. You cannot save your children's souls by giving them to
false teachers and the world, for the world has now been given to satan.” –
Our Lady, June
5, 1976
BIBLE
"You will understand also that changes must not be made in your Bible. They will
distort, confuse, confound, and destroy. There must be no changes made now in
the Book of life and love.
"Unless you all return to your Faith with the hearts of children, you will
be destroyed. This destruction you will only answer to yourself for, My
children. Remember, as you sow so shall you reap. And a church in darkness wears
a band of death about it.” – Jesus, June
9, 1979
JESUS
NEVER CHANGES
"Come
out of the darkness, my sisters. You have been misled. Do not follow the
fashions of your world. There is no fashion in Heaven. Jesus never changes.
There is great punishment ahead for those who follow the world. Do not leave
when you are discouraged by those who satan has sent into your convents. Stand
forth as an example of purity and godliness. You will not be cast aside by your
God, as you will by man, as you stand to defend your God. Pick up your cross and
carry it. You will return the habit to the floor." –
St. Theresa,
November 20, 1972
“WE DO
NOT CONDONE VARIATIONS AND CHANGES"
"It
has grieved Me much in the past, as it grieves Me now, that mankind is making
changes to My words. I assure you, My children and pastors within My houses, My
Church upon earth, there is no necessity to change My words. Heaven, hell,
purgatory, and especially, My children, the word 'hell' must be retained in your
prayers.
"Repeat, My child, the confessional prayer.
O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee, and I confess to
all my sins, because I dread the loss of Heaven and the pains of hell, but most
of all because I love Thee, my God, Who are all-good and deserving of all my
love. I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to confess my sins, to do
penance, and to amend my life. Amen.
"Yes, My child, We do not condone variations and changes. It is the enemies
of your God that have set themselves to promote change upon My words. The word
of your God is eternal and must not be changed.” –
Jesus, February 10, 1977
ONLY
SATAN SEEKS CHANGE
"We
ask--the Eternal Father speaks, and demands that all bishops in the houses of
God throughout your world must turn back to prayer. They must turn back from the
road they have chosen, a road filled with error, corruption, and sin. Man will
not make changes in the House of God to please the basic carnal nature of
mankind! But man in the House of God--the leaders, the clergy chosen by the
Eternal Father, shall turn man from his path of destruction and bring him into
the House of God. This he will not accomplish by lowering the rule or standards.
Man must change his ways and follow the ways of God.
"You are, My children, living in the era of Antichrist. Recognize the signs
of your times, and you will not fall into error. Read the Book, My children. You
read books of corruption and vile debauchery. Restore the truth in your heart,
into your children and homes. Open the good Book, the Bible, and read it in your
homes.
"My Son has already set up the rule for the houses throughout the world,
the churches. They are written in the Book of love and life, the Bible. Read and
learn, and follow the truth!
"There is no time or change in Heaven. The Father never changes. It is only
satan who seeks change to disturb, corrupt, and degrade. Satan roams wherever
there is darkness of spirit. He will debase mankind in a manner so foul that you
will know that no human could conceive of such vileness of sin.” –
Our Lady,
March
22, 1975
VATICAN II
"Pastors, those who have in their care Our sheep, you must stop now these
changes that you seek in novelty, for they are destroying the young souls and
scattering Our sheep.
"I repeat, My children, the great Council in Rome of Vatican II, the
promises were great, but satan sat among you and he played you like the chess
board.” – Our Lady,
August 5, 1976
DISTORTION OF DOCTRINE
"My
children, I--My heart is greatly saddened at the distortion of doctrine in My
Son's
Church. I understand that man can be misled, for I have often counseled you that
the road to hell is often paved with good intentions. You must examine your
Bible, the Book of life. Genesis, chapter 3. There must be no changes in the
story of the origin of mankind. 'She' must remain. 'He' must not replace it in
the story of the serpent's attack upon Eve.
"The Eternal Father has stated that the serpent shall crawl on his belly,
stomach, My children. I use several words to illustrate the manner in which man
is describing this time. He will crawl, the serpent, as the lowest animal among
the beasts because he has deceived Eve. But the Eternal Father in His mercy has
stated that He will place enmities between the serpent and the woman, between,
enmities between the serpent's seed and the woman's seed; and the serpent shall
have his head crushed by the woman and the serpent shall lie in wait for her
heel.
"Be it known that the Eternal Father has deemed that man shall not change
the words to 'he' and 'he.' I say this not to bring any false notions in your
mind, My children, that I repeat this in pride. Far be it from Me, for I have
not sought, neither on Heaven or earth, to be prideful; but, My children, I must
bring to you the words of truth. Many are changing the words to suit their own
interpretations of the Book of life, and these interpretations are based upon
man's own seeking.” – Our Lady,
September 28, 1978
RETAIN
FAITH AND TRADITION
“You
will not cast aside the knowledge of the supernatural. You will not cast aside
the truth of Faith and set up a faith based on the immorality of man. No! You
will retain the Faith and Tradition as given to you, not making changes that
cater to the basic carnal nature of mankind. You are misleading Our sheep. Pray!
Get down on your knees now and pray! You will gain nothing by socializing. You
have idolized money and become money changers in My Son's houses!
"My Son shall fling you out of the temples again. Moneychangers in the
houses of God! Destroyers of the Truth! Turn back now, for your judgment will be
far greater than those given to an ordinary man, for you as a priest of God have
been chosen by the Father to represent My Son. And as such, your judgment for
misleading and denying the basic truth of your Faith will be far greater!” –
Our Lady,
October 6, 1974
TIMELESS
"The words of My Son are timeless. They cannot be called outdated. There is no
reason to change. The Father never changes the rule. There is, My child, no easy
road to the Kingdom. It is a straight but narrow road. Should you wander from
this onto the wide road, you will find the road back very difficult.
"There is in My Son's House a complete casting aside of the knowledge of
the supernatural. Know, My children, that it is not a myth or fallacy, the
existence of Lucifer and his agents. They are loosed now in full force. You are
living in the days, the latter days, as written for you by John. You will read
the writings of John, his Revelations, and you will not be in darkness. You will
recognize the signs of your times. Your world will be baptized by a great fire.
The Ball of Redemption will pass through your world, and many will die in the
great flame of this Ball of Redemption.” – Our Lady,
December 6, 1974
TO
SEDUCE MANKIND
"There are many theologians, even in My Son's House now, that are bringing to
mankind doctrines of demons. They are teachings of man and not of God. Many have
set themselves in their arrogance to change the wordings in the Book of love and
life, the Bible. These changes were to seduce mankind into bondage of sin.” –
Our Lady, June
2, 1979
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