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These Last Days News - October 13, 2011

Bishop Robert Morlino of Madison, WI, to Stop Regular Holy Communion Under Both Kinds...

"Communion in the hand has not been, and will not be accepted by Heaven. This is a sacrilege in the eyes of the Eternal Father, and must not be continued, for you only add to your punishment when you continue on in the ways that have been found to be unpleasing to the Eternal Father." - Our Lady of the Roses, June 30, 1984

Bishop to Priests: Hold the Communion Wine...

Madison.com reported on October 11, 2011:

Madison Catholic Bishop Robert Morlino has asked priests in the diocese to move toward using only bread during regular communion services, reserving the use of both bread and wine for more solemn or special occasions.

The change would be a significant departure from current U.S. Catholic custom, although bread-only is the norm in many other parts of the world. Madison would become only the second diocese in the country known to limit wine as a general policy.

However, diocesan officials stressed Monday that Morlino has not issued a directive to priests.

“He has not issued a formal mandate or set a fixed timeline but has asked pastors to exercise their own leadership to move in this direction,” said Monsignor James Bartylla, the diocese’s second-in-command.

Morlino first discussed the topic with priests at a retreat late last month, Bartylla said.

In a letter to priests Monday, Morlino said the change was needed to deepen laypeople’s reverence for the Eucharist, the Catholic term for communion. Catholics believe bread and wine, when consecrated by a priest, become the actual body and blood of Christ.

Morlino wrote that he has personally experienced occasions when reverence for the consecrated wine “is not being met.”

The use of consecrated wine at regular Masses often requires non-ordained parishioners to assist priests in helping with distribution. Some believe this increases the likelihood of unintentional mishandling of Christ’s blood through careless treatment, spillage or swilling.

“Wine, as a liquid, is much more subject to accidents and misuse than bread,” Bartylla said. “There are practical and logistical difficulties.”

Catholic teaching holds that only one form — consecrated bread or wine — is needed to receive Christ’s full person, while both together constitute “a fuller sign” of the Last Supper.

New direction

Hundreds of Catholics in Downtown Madison learned Sunday of the new direction. Monsignor Kevin Holmes, leader of the Cathedral Parish, a group of three Downtown congregations, wrote in Sunday’s bulletin that Morlino had given priests “considerable latitude” in implementing the change.

Morlino has suggested that the beginning of Advent (Nov. 27) “would be one plausible date to make the change,” Holmes wrote. That’s the same day the Catholic Church is fully implementing a new translation of its liturgical book.

Holmes couldn’t be reached Monday. Word among Catholics of the change is just starting to spread.

Travis Ganser, a member of the Cathedral Parish, said he supports the move.

“If you really believe what the church teaches and that the bishop is the church’s shepherd, then decisions like this are easy to accept,” he said.

Jim Andrews, a member of St. Thomas the Apostle Church in Beloit, called it “sort of a ridiculous idea.”

“This changes the meaning and traditions that I know,” he said. “The other practical ramification is there will be fewer laypeople involved in services.”

Expired permission?

In its early days, the Catholic Church distributed both bread and wine to the faithful, a tradition that continued for more than a millennium, according to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. In 1415, the church decreed only bread would be distributed, with the use of wine reserved largely for clergy.

The Second Vatican Council in 1963 restored the use of both bread and wine at a bishop’s discretion. Morlino contends the council never intended it to become a regular practice.

Bartylla said communion under both forms is meant to be “exceptional rather than normative.”

Holmes, in his note to parishioners, said the widespread American practice of offering both forms began here under temporary special permission from the Vatican in 1975 and expired in 2005. U.S. bishops were denied an extension, he said.

Different views

That rationale for dropping wine was hotly debated Monday by Catholic scholars.

Anthony Ruff, a Benedictine monk and associate professor of theology at St. John’s University in Collegeville, Minn., said the failure to get an explicit extension just means the universal rules of the church kick in.

“Nothing in the universal rules of the church requires the bishop to restrict both forms,” he said. “This decision is absolutely unnecessary. The bishop has full authority to allow communion under both forms at all Masses if he wishes.”

Ruff called the move “demoralizing to dedicated priests and lay ministers in the diocese.”

But Dennis Martin, a theology professor at Loyola University in Chicago, said any U.S. diocese routinely distributing both forms “is in violation of church rules.”

“A renewal was requested and not given,” Martin said. “I’m sorry, that sounds to me like a pretty deliberate and intentional statement of bread-only.”

He praised Morlino’s move as “quite reasonable and quite practical.”

Officials with the Madison diocese said examples of when both wine and bread might be used include marriage ceremonies, ordinations and occasions that are solemn in nature for the diocese or individual parishes.

Last month, the Phoenix Catholic Diocese announced it would stop offering wine at most Masses, becoming the first diocese in the country to make such a change and kicking up a controversy. No date for implementing the policy has been announced.

Diocese of Madison, WI, to Stop Regular Holy Communion Under Both Kinds. The indult ran out in 2005.

What Does The Prayer Really Say? reported on October 9, 2011:

On the site of the parish of the Cathedral of Madison in Wisconsin, where His Excellency Most Rev. Robert Morlino is, by the grace of God, the ordinary, there is a pdf of the parish bulletin in which it is explained that they are ending regular distribution of Holy Communion under both kinds.

You will recall that at the Cathedral of Phoenix, where Bishop Olmsted is, by the grace of God, ordinary, the same decision was made.

Here is the bulletin blurb from Msgr. Kevin Holmes, Rector of the Cathedral in Madison with my emphases and comments.

Dear Friends in Christ:

Maybe you noticed a story in last week?s Catholic Herald about new norms for Communion under both species in the Diocese of Phoenix. You may have wondered why this story from Arizona received such prominent coverage here (on page 3 of the Catholic Herald, where letters from Bishop Morlino appear). In fact, the story was featured because it will be significant for us as well. Bishop Morlino spoke to us priests about this while we together at Wisconsin Dells at the end of last month.

In the last couple of decades, Communion under both species (with the congregation able to receive the Precious Blood as well as the Sacred Host) has become routine in our experience. I knew (as many of you do) that Communion under both species was first introduced, on a limited basis, after the Second Vatican Council, and that it has become much more common since. What I did not know was that the widespread American practice of offering both species at most Sunday Masses began here under an indult (special permission) given by the Vatican in 1975, which expired in 2005.  [Get that everyone?  The key points: it was a special permission to depart from the norm and that permission expired.]

Almost no one realized that until very recently. Maybe we can be forgiven for forgetting that we were operating under a temporary indult. After thirty years, something can seem pretty permanent. But it wasn’t. The bishops of our country did apply for an extension of the 1975 indult, but that was denied.

So, all over the United States, we now find ourselves needing to bring our practice into conformity with current regulations (and with the rest of the world). In his comments at Chula Vista, Bishop Morlino mentioned a few instances in which Communion under both kinds is still permitted: the Chrism Mass, the Feast of Corpus Christi, for the bride and groom at a Nuptial Mass, and for those so allergic to wheat that they cannot tolerate even low-gluten hosts. Beyond those occasions and circumstances, Communion can be offered under both species at celebrations of special importance. But it is clear that we will not be seeing Communion under both species as a weekly practice.

Bishop Morlino understands that this comes as news to all of us. He is giving pastors considerable latitude as to the timetable for implementing this change. He suggested that the beginning of Advent (when the new translation of the Missal is fully implemented) would be one plausible date to make the change. That will be our timetable here at the Cathedral Parish (and also at St. Paul’s University Catholic Center, the other parish clustered with us).

Msgr. Kevin D. Holmes

Times are changing.

"You must not take the Body of My Son in your hand! You open the door for the entrance of evil spirits to defile My Son's Body! The consecrated fingers of a duly ordained man of God, the priest, shall place My Son into your mouth, and you must absorb His Body with goodness and love." - Our Lady of the Roses, March 22, 1975

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REAL PRESENCE
"You violate your sacred trust. You have taken the Body of your Creator, the Son of your God in the Trinity, and violated Him. You must do your eating at home! When you come to the great Sacrifice, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, you come in reverence. You must go down upon your knees and do penance now for the offenses to your God! ...
    "As in the past, cannot you recognize the mystery of Heaven and earth? Did not the staff of Moses turn into a serpent in the will of God? Did not the river in Egypt turn into blood in the will of God? And cannot God, in His will, come to you changing the bread and wine into the actual Presence, the real Presence, the factual Presence of His Body and Blood?" - St. Michael, February 1, 1977

GOODNESS AND LOVE
"You must not take the Body of My Son in your hand! You open the door for the entrance of evil spirits to defile My Son's Body! The consecrated fingers of a duly ordained man of God, the priest, shall place My Son into your mouth, and you must absorb His Body with goodness and love." - Our Lady, March 22, 1975

SACRILEGE
"My Son is not pleased with the manner in which His Body and Blood is being given to all of the humans upon earth.
    "Communion in the hand has not been, and will not be accepted by Heaven. This is a sacrilege in the eyes of the Eternal Father, and must not be continued, for you only add to your punishment when you continue on in the ways that have been found to be unpleasing to the Eternal Father." - Our Lady, June 30, 1984

MAN OF GOD
"A priest is a man of God, chosen solely from the world to be a representative of the Son of God.... As a man of God, he brings to you the Body and Blood of your Savior.
    "I tell you, my brothers and sister, that none shall take in his or her hands the purified Body of your Savior! Only the consecrated fingers and hands of the representative of Christ the Lord shall give and bring this gift to mankind! - St. Theresa, October 2, 1975

THE LAST SUPPER
Veronica - I see a very large mural in the sky now. It's dark all about it. And I know it's a plaque; it's like a plaque up here in the sky, and it shows the twelve apostles during the Last Supper. I see great sadness in their faces because of the violation of the Host now. - September 7, 1977

SINISTER PLAN
"I ask you, My children--you ask Me many times in your prayers, shall you accept My Son's Body in your hands? I say no! And no again for reason!
    "You cannot judge all those about you, My children, who have accepted this diabolical practice under the guise of leadership. No, My children, this was brought about to desecrate My Son, to take from Him the truth of His divine nature. No one who hears My voice must accept My Son's Body and Blood in the hands! The chalice shall turn, and you shall be bathed in His Blood!
    "It was, My children, a sinister plan from the depths of hell to remove the knowledge of the divinity of My Son from among you." - Our Lady, February 10, 1978

DELUDED
"Again and again I wander to and fro directing My children to remain close to the Eucharist, the Bread of life. But do not become misguided: Do not accept My Son's Body in your hands.
    "Satan, Lucifer, came as an angel of light and set his agents among the hierarchy of My Son's Church and deluded them. All manner of abominations are being committed upon My Son's Body now." - Our Lady, July 15, 1978

BLASPHEMY
"Many are giving My Body in a manner that can only be called blasphemy. Many are accepting My Body in the Eucharist in a manner that defames the Divinity, and also promotes unholiness, paganism, and impurity of heart and actions during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass." - Jesus, May 26, 1979

DESECRATION
"My child, you ask why I cry? I shed tears of great anguish. I watch anew the desecration to My Son's Body being committed upon earth. None shall place their hands upon His Body!
    "My Son has given you in trust those He has chosen among mankind to represent Him-your priests. None others shall carry My Son to mankind! You shall not defile His Body by giving Him into the hands of women, or those that have not been prepared by the Father as legally-ordained priests in the houses of God-laziness, preoccupied with the world and the pleasures of the flesh!" - Our Lady, November 1, 1974

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