Bishops begin distancing from Vatican document on gays in priesthood

Bishops begin distancing from Vatican document on gays in priesthood...

"I will not stand for My priests who condone homosexuality and allow it in My priesthood! I will not stand for My priests who allow the murder of the unborn with their permissiveness! I will not stand by and allow My priesthood to be destroyed!" - Jesus, June 18, 1982

LifeSiteNews.com reported on November 30, 2005:

After last week’s leak of the long-awaited Vatican document on homosexuals and the priesthood, LifeSiteNews.com reported that the anticipated ban was prompting dissenters to reveal themselves publicly. Now that the document has been officially released and Vatican officials have clarified that indeed the intention is to bar those with serious and persistent homosexual temptations from ordination, reports are coming in of bishops and other Catholic clergy openly or subtly dissenting. The reaction is further revealing the deep rift that has long been observable between much of the US episcopate and the teachings and disciplines of the Catholic Church.

In addition to the usual suspects such as the notorious Cardinal archbishop of Los Angeles, Roger Mahony, and Bishop Matthew Clark of Rochester, NY - both of whom either wink at or encourage homosexuals among their clergy and were praised by homosexual activists for their support of the “gay community” – other bishops are revealing their opposition.

Bishop William Lori, of Bridgeport, Connecticut, asserted that the document "is not, as some have concluded, a response to the sexual abuse crisis in the United States," although the text of the document clearly states that its proscriptions are “made more urgent by the current situation.”

Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, the archbishop of Westminster, said in an official statement, “The Instruction is not saying that men of homosexual orientation are not welcome in the priesthood.” This despite the fact that the document says exactly the opposite.

The Swiss Bishops' Conference issued a statement that opted for ambiguity instead of overt denial. “At the heart of our reflections on becoming a priest,” they wrote, “there is no question of sexual orientation but instead the responsibility to follow Christ in a coherent manner.” The ambiguity arises with the implication that following Christ and obeying Church dictates can be two different things.

The president of the US Bishops' Conference, Bishop William Skylstad, head of a diocese that recently declared bankruptcy after its huge abuse case payouts, signed a statement that laboriously sidestepped the specific issue of ordaining those with homosexual tendencies. Skylstad said that the answer to the question "whether a homosexually-inclined man can be a good priest" lies in the lives of men who "have truly been dedicated priests."

One US Jesuit, Fr. James Martin who writes on the issue said Skylstad’s statement and another from the head of the organization for priests in religious orders indicate some officials “reserve the right to interpret the new document according to their own reading of it on the local level.”

A statement from Theodore Cardinal McCarrick of Washington said, “It is important to look at the whole person” in assessing candidates and specified commitment to celibacy and backing for church teaching but did not address same-sex orientation as such.

The Vatican’s document states that there are three categories of men who may not be admitted to seminaries or ordained: "those who practise homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called 'gay culture’.”

With the Church’s own hierarchy in many countries openly or tacitly in support of the “so-called gay culture” it is difficult to anticipate what Rome’s recourse will be to bishops who defy, ignore or “interpret” the document to mean business as usual.

Read related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
Catholic Schism Being Revealed as Homosexual Priest Document Readies for Release
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Vatican 'Gay' Priest Ban Forcing Dissidents Out of the Closet
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/nov/05112307.html

"Man shall not condone evil or rationalize sin. Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God and man! The Creator condemns those who do not repent of this sin." - Our Lady of the Roses, August 5, 1977

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READ YOUR BIBLES
"Your word of homosexuality can be explained by the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Read in your Bibles or consult your clergy. Find yourselves, My children, a humble, pious clergy. Many have fallen away from the Faith." Our Lady, October 6, 1992

PASTORS HELD RESPONSIBLE
"We hold the pastors of My Son's House, We hold them as being responsible for the fall of the children. Be ye warned now, My children, that woe to the man who has this responsibility upon his conscience and his soul. Scandals have been brought into the lives of your children. Perversion, homosexuality, immorality, perverted sex, My children-where shall you stop but at the abyss!" Our Lady, December 7, 1977

AN ABOMINATION
"Man shall not condone evil or rationalize sin. Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God and man! The Creator condemns those who do not repent of this sin." Our Lady, August 5, 1977

BLACK CLOUD OVER AMERICA
"In the days of Sodom, so too were men giving themselves over to all the pleasures of the flesh: eating, drinking, marrying, giving in marriage. All manner of sinful lusts are being committed. Men shameful with men, women casting aside their role of motherhood and lusting after women. As it was in the days of Sodom, so now is this black cloud over America." Our Lady, July 14, 1979

SODOM: "WE DESTROYED IT"
"And the great issue now of homosexuality in your country, that shall be on the balance that Michael holds. Unless this balance is evened by removing this evil from your country and bringing in just laws to prevent the spread of homosexuality, you cannot be saved; your country cannot be saved. Because I repeat again, as I have repeated in the past: When a country has given itself over to immorality and all pleasures of the flesh, and abominations of the flesh, then that country will fall! If you do not believe Me, My children, I say: You will read your history books, and you will find out that there was a Sodom and Gomorrah. And what did We do to that abominable city, Sodom? We destroyed it! And what did We do to Gomorrah? We destroyed it! And We destroyed all who did not follow the plan for their redemption." Jesus, November 1, 1985

SIN: FORERUNNER OF WAR
"For sin is always a forerunner for war, My children: murders, persecutions, robberies, all manners of sins of the flesh, homosexuality, lesbianism, perversion, sodomy. Sodom and Gomorrah fell for less sins than you have committed now upon your earth. Noah took to the ark and the world was in a better state spiritually than your world now; for you have accepted a sophisticated manner of sin, based on man's reasoning and not God's truth." Our Lady, October 2, 1979

ANY COUNTRY
"Any country that allows homosexuals to roam and to seduce the young shall be destroyed." Our Lady, June 30, 1984

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D174 - Homosexuality, Part 2 PDF
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Articles…

Vatican officially releases document on homosexuality and the priesthood
https://www.tldm.org/News8/VaticanDocumentHomosexualityPriesthood.htm

Vatican says no to homosexuals in priesthood - approved by Pope Benedict
https://www.tldm.org/News8/homosexualityPriesthood3.htm

Vatican appointed seminary investigator says homosexuals should not be ordained
https://www.tldm.org/News8/SeminaryInvestigator.htm

Cardinal George of Chicago reaffirms longtime Vatican teaching: no homosexuals allowed in priesthood
https://www.tldm.org/News8/homosexualityPriesthood.htm

John Paul II and a Vatican official speak out against homosexuals in the Catholic priesthood
https://www.tldm.org/News5/gays_in_priesthood.htm

Clear Vatican statement against ordaining homosexuals: "a person who is homosexual or has homosexual tendencies is not, therefore, suitable to receive the sacrament of sacred orders."
https://www.tldm.org/News5/Estevez.htm

Bishop D'Arcy urges ban on gay priests
https://www.tldm.org/News7/D'Arcy.htm

Philippine Bishops Conference bans homosexual seminarians and priests
https://www.tldm.org/News7/PhilippineBishopsBanHomosexuals.htm

Santo Domingo Cardinal says gays do not belong in seminaries
https://www.tldm.org/News7/homosexualityCardinalNicolas.htm

Austrian seminary: no more homosexuals
https://www.tldm.org/News7/HomosexualityAustrianSeminary.htm

American seminaries: "hell-holes of error and heresy"
https://www.tldm.org/news5/seminaries.htm

John Paul II orders cleanup of U.S. seminaries
https://www.tldm.org/news5/seminaries2.htm

Vatican document: homosexuals should not be ordained or admitted to the seminary
https://www.tldm.org/News5/Vatican_document.htm

“This hapless bench of bishops”
https://www.tldm.org/News5/hapless.htm

Gay and lesbian newspaper reports: “Victory at Bishops' Conference”
https://www.tldm.org/News5/WindyCity.htm

The American bishops and homosexual priests
https://www.tldm.org/news4/scandal1.htm

81% of clergy sex crimes committed by homosexuals
https://www.tldm.org/News6/homosexuality9.htm

What the Saints say about the sin of homosexuality
https://www.tldm.org/news7/homosexualitySaints.htm

What the Bible says about homosexuality
https://www.tldm.org/News6/homosexuality3.htm

Great Britain study says 43% of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals have a mental disorder
https://www.tldm.org/news7/GayMentalDisorder.htm

Homosexuality and Hope: excerpts taken from a document by the Catholic Medical Association
https://www.tldm.org/news6/ssa.htm

America: Slouching towards Gomorrah
https://www.tldm.org/news5/gomorrah.htm

Homosexuality: dispelling the lies
https://www.tldm.org/News4/homosexuality2.htm

Supreme Court Justice Burger speaks out against homosexuality
https://www.tldm.org/news6/homosexuality1.htm

Sin is insanity
https://www.tldm.org/news6/insanity.htm

Links...

U.S. Bishops to Begin Inspecting Seminaries, National Catholic Register
http://www.ncregister.com/articulo.php?artkod=NTU-

Expected Vatican Ban Roils American Church, [U.K.] Guardian, September 22, 2005
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-5295980,00.html

Trust us to fix it, Catholic World News
http://www.cwnews.com/offtherecord/offtherecord.cfm?task=singledisplay&recnum=2791

Bishops meeting to avoid gay issue, Washington Times, June 15, 2005
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050614-114626-2482r.htm

Why won't our bishops solve the 'gay' priest problem? New Oxford Review, July-August 2004
http://www.newoxfordreview.org/note.jsp?did=0704-notes-bishops

How America's Catholic Church crucified itself, [London] Times Online, March 13, 2005
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-1517560,00.html

Vatican Monsignor says gays shouldn’t be priests, Washington Times, September 20, 2002
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020920-85049356.htm

Catholic official argues against gay priests, Modesto Bee, September 19, 2002
http://www.modbee.com/24hour/nation/story/543081p-4290797c.html

John Paul II to Church: Risky seminarians must go, National Catholic Register, Sept. 15-21, 2002
http://www.ncregister.com/Register_News/091002sem.htm

John Paul II: Men with deviant affections can’t be priests, ABC News, September 5, 2002
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20020905_339.html

Catholic Medical Association: Homosexuality and Hope
http://www.cathmed.org/publications/homosexuality.html

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