Catholic schism being revealed as homosexual priest document readies for release

Catholic schism being revealed as homosexual priest document readies for release...

We do not want a separation within My Son's House. The United States of America heads fast to a schism. Fight, My children; do not give in to the forces of evil. Fight the enemy with prayer." - Our Lady of the Roses, May 29, 1976

LifeSiteNews.com reported on November 14, 2005:

As the publication of the new Vatican document on homosexuality and the Catholic priesthood is about to be published at the end of the month, several Catholic leaders including an American bishop have publicly stated their views against the long-standing Vatican position against ordaining men with homosexual inclinations to the priesthood. Rochester, NY, Bishop Matthew H. Clark, was the latest to come out in favour of homosexual priests in a column in his diocesan paper Saturday.

Homosexual priests in Canada and the United States have condemned the Church's position in mostly anonymous statements to the media. However some US and Canadian priests have also identified themselves while publicizing their rejection of the Catholic position on the matter. In recent weeks the former head of one of the largest religious orders in the Catholic Church did so, and his statements are closely followed by those of Bishop Clark.

Rev. Timothy Radcliffe, the international leader of the Dominican Order from 1992 to 2001, last week slammed any suggestion of barring homosexuals from the priesthood, and suggested barring "homophobes" instead. "Any deep-rooted prejudice against others, such as homophobia or misogyny, would be grounds for rejecting a candidate for the priesthood, but not their sexual orientation," he said. (see LifeSiteNews.com coverage: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/nov/05110805.html )

Clark, in his column, relates the story of priests and religious in his diocese who have "come out" to him as being homosexuals. About receiving the revelations, the bishop writes "I know that I was deeply gratified that they entrusted me with that information . . . Their simplicity and honesty with me only deepened my regard for them . . . and (I) felt enriched by their trust and confidence."

Clark says media reports that the upcoming Vatican document will restate the church's position that those with homosexual orientations are unfit for the priesthood are "a source of great pain for them and for all of us who know and love them."

However, as re-affirmed in 1961, the Catholic Church's official disciplines have strictly forbidden the ordination of homosexuals, whether 'active and open' or otherwise. (see related LifeSiteNews.com coverage: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/nov/05110402.html ) The fact that the Vatican's instruction was largely ignored is evidenced by the current proliferation of homosexual men in the priesthood and subsequent need for another document reiterating the direction.

Nevertheless, Clark says, "The fundamental concern of formation for a life of celibate chastity is for sexual maturity, not sexual orientation." He goes so far as to tell homosexual men, using the homosexual activist "gay" term, "to gay young men who are considering a vocation to priesthood. We try to treat all inquiries fairly. You will be no exception." (see Clark's full column: http://www.catholiccourier.com/tmp1.cfm?nid=59&... )

On Sunday the Associated Press reported that Rev. Fred Daley, a Roman Catholic priest, "had grown increasingly disturbed by Vatican pronouncements over the years that homosexuals were unfit for the clergy" and "came out" to his bishop, Syracuse Bishop James M. Moynihan. "As I have, through the years, become more comfortable with who I am, it seemed the institutional church and its decrees and its pastoral letters from the Vatican seemed more harsh and almost mean-spirited," said Daley.

In Canada, Fr. Karl Clemens who retired early from the Kingston Diocese "came out" on television last month, similarly describing his frustration with the church's stand on homosexuality. (see the LifeSiteNews.com coverage: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/oct/05102402.html )

See related LifeSiteNews.com coverage:
Vatican Document on Homosexuality Leaked Copy offers Preview says Report
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/nov/05111106.html

"Man shall not condone evil or rationalize sin. Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God and man! The Creator condemns those who do not repent of this sin." - Our Lady of the Roses, August 5, 1977

"Are you so blind that you do not recognize the acceleration of sin among you? Murders abound, thievery, all manner of carnage, destruction of young souls, abortion, homosexuality, condemned from the beginning of time by the Eternal Father. Yet sin has become a way of life. Sin is condoned now, even unto the highest judge of your land and your lands throughout the world. As you have sown so shall you reap. Sin is death, not only of the spirit, but of the body. Wars are a punishment for man's sin, his greed, his avarice." - Our Lady of the Roses, August 14, 1981

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These prophecies came from Jesus, Mary, and the saints to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, NY, from 1968 to 1995.

READ YOUR BIBLES
"Your word of homosexuality can be explained by the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Read in your Bibles or consult your clergy. Find yourselves, My children, a humble, pious clergy. Many have fallen away from the Faith." Our Lady, October 6, 1992

PASTORS HELD RESPONSIBLE
"We hold the pastors of My Son's House, We hold them as being responsible for the fall of the children. Be ye warned now, My children, that woe to the man who has this responsibility upon his conscience and his soul. Scandals have been brought into the lives of your children. Perversion, homosexuality, immorality, perverted sex, My children-where shall you stop but at the abyss!" Our Lady, December 7, 1977

AN ABOMINATION
"Man shall not condone evil or rationalize sin. Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God and man! The Creator condemns those who do not repent of this sin." Our Lady, August 5, 1977

BLACK CLOUD OVER AMERICA
"In the days of Sodom, so too were men giving themselves over to all the pleasures of the flesh: eating, drinking, marrying, giving in marriage. All manner of sinful lusts are being committed. Men shameful with men, women casting aside their role of motherhood and lusting after women. As it was in the days of Sodom, so now is this black cloud over America." Our Lady, July 14, 1979

SODOM: "WE DESTROYED IT"
"And the great issue now of homosexuality in your country, that shall be on the balance that Michael holds. Unless this balance is evened by removing this evil from your country and bringing in just laws to prevent the spread of homosexuality, you cannot be saved; your country cannot be saved. Because I repeat again, as I have repeated in the past: When a country has given itself over to immorality and all pleasures of the flesh, and abominations of the flesh, then that country will fall! If you do not believe Me, My children, I say: You will read your history books, and you will find out that there was a Sodom and Gomorrah. And what did We do to that abominable city, Sodom? We destroyed it! And what did We do to Gomorrah? We destroyed it! And We destroyed all who did not follow the plan for their redemption." Jesus, November 1, 1985

SIN: FORERUNNER OF WAR
"For sin is always a forerunner for war, My children: murders, persecutions, robberies, all manners of sins of the flesh, homosexuality, lesbianism, perversion, sodomy. Sodom and Gomorrah fell for less sins than you have committed now upon your earth. Noah took to the ark and the world was in a better state spiritually than your world now; for you have accepted a sophisticated manner of sin, based on man's reasoning and not God's truth." Our Lady, October 2, 1979

ANY COUNTRY
"Any country that allows homosexuals to roam and to seduce the young shall be destroyed." Our Lady, June 30, 1984

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D63 - The Third Secret PDF
D163 - Schism PDF
D169 - Stigma of a Fallen Hierarchy, Part 1 PDF
D170 - Stigma of a Fallen Hierarchy, Part 2 PDF
D171 - Stigma of a Fallen Hierarchy, Part 3 PDF
D172 - Priestly Celibacy PDF
D174 - Homosexuality, Part 2 PDF
D177 - Seminaries PDF

Articles…

Vatican says no to homosexuals in priesthood - approved by Pope Benedict
https://www.tldm.org/News8/homosexualityPriesthood3.htm

Vatican appointed seminary investigator says homosexuals should not be ordained
https://www.tldm.org/News8/SeminaryInvestigator.htm

Cardinal George of Chicago reaffirms longtime Vatican teaching: no homosexuals allowed in priesthood

https://www.tldm.org/News8/homosexualityPriesthood.htm

John Paul II and a Vatican official speak out against homosexuals in the Catholic priesthood
https://www.tldm.org/News5/gays_in_priesthood.htm

Clear Vatican statement against ordaining homosexuals: "a person who is homosexual or has homosexual tendencies is not, therefore, suitable to receive the sacrament of sacred orders."
https://www.tldm.org/News5/Estevez.htm

Bishop D'Arcy urges ban on gay priests
https://www.tldm.org/News7/D'Arcy.htm

Philippine Bishops Conference bans homosexual seminarians and priests
https://www.tldm.org/News7/PhilippineBishopsBanHomosexuals.htm

Santo Domingo Cardinal says gays do not belong in seminaries
https://www.tldm.org/News7/homosexualityCardinalNicolas.htm

Austrian seminary: no more homosexuals
https://www.tldm.org/News7/HomosexualityAustrianSeminary.htm

American seminaries: "hell-holes of error and heresy"
https://www.tldm.org/news5/seminaries.htm

John Paul II orders cleanup of U.S. seminaries
https://www.tldm.org/news5/seminaries2.htm

Vatican document: homosexuals should not be ordained or admitted to the seminary
https://www.tldm.org/News5/Vatican_document.htm

“This hapless bench of bishops”
https://www.tldm.org/News5/hapless.htm

Gay and lesbian newspaper reports: “Victory at Bishops' Conference”
https://www.tldm.org/News5/WindyCity.htm

The American bishops and homosexual priests
https://www.tldm.org/news4/scandal1.htm

81% of clergy sex crimes committed by homosexuals
https://www.tldm.org/News6/homosexuality9.htm

What the Saints say about the sin of homosexuality
https://www.tldm.org/news7/homosexualitySaints.htm

What the Bible says about homosexuality
https://www.tldm.org/News6/homosexuality3.htm

Great Britain study says 43% of gays, lesbians, and bisexuals have a mental disorder
https://www.tldm.org/news7/GayMentalDisorder.htm

Our Lady of the Roses gave 17 requests to save America from annihilation
https://www.tldm.org/news5/17-steps.htm

Homosexuality and Hope: excerpts taken from a document by the Catholic Medical Association
https://www.tldm.org/news6/ssa.htm

America: Slouching towards Gomorrah
https://www.tldm.org/news5/gomorrah.htm

Homosexuality: dispelling the lies
https://www.tldm.org/News4/homosexuality2.htm

Supreme Court Justice Burger speaks out against homosexuality
https://www.tldm.org/news6/homosexuality1.htm

Sin is insanity
https://www.tldm.org/news6/insanity.htm

Links...

U.S. Bishops to Begin Inspecting Seminaries, National Catholic Register

http://www.ncregister.com/articulo.php?artkod=NTU-

Expected Vatican Ban Roils American Church, [U.K.] Guardian, September 22, 2005
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-5295980,00.html

Trust us to fix it, Catholic World News
http://www.cwnews.com/offtherecord/offtherecord.cfm?task=singledisplay&recnum=2791

Bishops meeting to avoid gay issue, Washington Times, June 15, 2005
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050614-114626-2482r.htm

Why won't our bishops solve the 'gay' priest problem? New Oxford Review, July-August 2004
http://www.newoxfordreview.org/note.jsp?did=0704-notes-bishops

How America's Catholic Church crucified itself, [London] Times Online, March 13, 2005

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2099-1517560,00.html

Vatican Monsignor says gays shouldn’t be priests, Washington Times, September 20, 2002

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020920-85049356.htm

Catholic official argues against gay priests, Modesto Bee, September 19, 2002

http://www.modbee.com/24hour/nation/story/543081p-4290797c.html

John Paul II to Church: Risky seminarians must go, National Catholic Register, Sept. 15-21, 2002

http://www.ncregister.com/Register_News/091002sem.htm

John Paul II: Men with deviant affections can’t be priests, ABC News, September 5, 2002

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20020905_339.html

Catholic Medical Association: Homosexuality and Hope
http://www.cathmed.org/publications/homosexuality.html

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