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"We haven't faced a downturn like this since the Depression" - Bill Gross, chief investment officer of PIMCO, the world's biggest bond fund
New wave of mortgage failures could create a nightmare economic scenario...
“… the disaster back in the 1920's, My children, was as nothing compared to what will happen now. I talk of a great depression coming upon mankind." - Jesus, October 1, 1988
Yahoo News reported on November 24, 2007:
When Domenico Colombo saw that his monthly mortgage payment was about to balloon by 30 percent, he had a clear picture of how bad it could get.
His payment was scheduled to surge by an extra $1,500 in December. With his daughter headed to college next fall and tuition to be paid, he feared ending up like so many neighbors in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., who defaulted on their mortgages and whose homes are now in foreclosure and sporting "For Sale" signs.
Colombo did manage to renegotiate a new fixed interest rate loan with his bank, and now believes he'll be OK -- but the future is less certain for the rest of us.
In the months ahead, millions of other adjustable-rate mortgages like Colombo's will reset, giving them a higher interest rate as required by the loan agreements and leaving many homeowners unable to make their payments. Soaring mortgage default rates this year already have shaken major financial institutions and the fallout from more of them, some experts say, could spread from those already battered banks into the general economy.
The worst-case scenario is anyone's guess, but some believe it could become very bad.
"We haven't faced a downturn like this since the Depression," said Bill Gross, chief investment officer of PIMCO, the world's biggest bond fund. He's not suggesting anything like those terrible times -- but, as an expert on the global credit crisis, he speaks with authority.
"Its effect on consumption, its effect on future lending attitudes, could bring us close to the zero line in terms of economic growth," he said. "It does keep me up at night."
Some 2 million homeowners hold $600 billion of subprime adjustable-rate mortgage loans, known as ARMs, that are due to reset at higher amounts during the next eight months. Subprime loans are those made to people with poor credit. Not all these mortgages are in trouble, but homeowners who default or fall behind on payments could cause an economic shock of a type never seen before.
Some of the nation's leading economic minds lay out a scenario that is frightening. Not only would the next wave of the mortgage crisis force people out of their homes, it might also spiral throughout the economy.
The already severe housing slump would be exacerbated by even more empty homes on the market, causing prices to plunge by up to 40 percent in once-hot real estate spots such as California, Nevada and Florida. Builders like Chicago's Neumann Homes, which filed for bankruptcy protection this month, could go under. The top 10 global banks, which repackage loans into exotic securities such as collateralized debt obligations, or CDOs, could suffer far greater write-offs than the $75 billion already taken this year.
Massive job losses would curtail consumer spending that makes up two-thirds of the economy. The Labor Department estimates almost 100,000 financial services jobs related to credit and lending in the U.S. have already been lost, from local bank loan officers to traders dealing in mortgage-backed securities. Thousands of Americans who work in the housing industry could find themselves on the dole. And there's no telling how that would affect car dealers, retailers and others dependent on consumer paychecks.
Based on historical models, zero growth in the U.S. gross domestic product would take the current unemployment rate to 6.4 percent. That would wipe out about 3 million jobs from the economy, according to the Washington-based Economic Policy Institute.
By comparison, in the last big downturn between 2001-03 some 2 million jobs were lost, according to the Labor Department. The dot-com bust early this decade decimated the technology sector, while the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks hurt the transportation and allied industries. Economists said the country was officially in recession from March to November of 2001, but the aftermath stretched to 2003.
There is increasing evidence that another downturn has begun.
Borrowers who took out loans in the first six months of this year are already falling behind on their payments faster than those who took out loans in 2006, according to a report from Arlington, Va.-based investment bank Friedman, Billings Ramsey. That's making it even harder for would-be buyers to get new mortgages -- a frightening prospect for home builders with projects going begging on the market, and for homeowners desperate to unload property to avoid defaulting on their loans.
Meanwhile, the number of U.S. homes in foreclosure is expected to keep soaring after more than doubling during the third quarter from a year earlier, to 446,726 homes nationwide, according to Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac Inc. That's one foreclosure filing for every 196 households in the nation, a 34 percent jump from just three months earlier.
Such data suggests more Americans could lose their homes than ever before, and those in peril are people who never thought they'd welsh on a mortgage payment. They come from a broad swath -- teachers, pharmacists, and civil servants who were lured by enticing mortgage terms.
Some homebuyers gambled on interest-only loans. The mortgages, which allowed buyers to pay just interest at a low rate for two years, were too good to pass up. But with that initial term now expiring, many homeowners find they can't make the payments. The hopes that went along with those mortgages -- that they'd be able to refinance because the equity in their homes would appreciate -- have been dashed as home prices skidded across the country.
"It's been said a lot of people have been using their homes as ATM machines," said Thomas Lawler, a former official at mortgage lender Fannie Mae who is now a private housing and finance consultant. "The risk has a lot of tentacles."
This example illustrates the distress many homeowners are in or will find themselves in: A subprime adjustable-rate mortgage on a $400,000 home could have payments of about $2,200 a month, with borrowers paying 6.5 percent, interest only. When the teaser period expires, that payment becomes $4,000, with the homeowner paying 12 percent and now having to come up with principal as well as interest.
Minneapolis resident Chad Raskovich found himself in a such a situation. He hoped -- it turned out, in vain -- to gain more equity in his home and that a strong record of payments would enable him to secure a better loan later on.
"It's not just me, it's a lot of people I know. The housing market in the Twin Cities has dramatically changed for the worse in the years since I purchased my home. Now we're just looking for a solution," he said.
Colombo, who lives in the planned community of Weston just outside Ft. Lauderdale, said the reset on his home would have "destroyed' his financial situation. He went to Mortgage Repair Center, one of hundreds of debt counselors trying to bail out desperate homeowners, to work with his lender.
"But many people in my neighborhood didn't get help, and some have literally just walked away from their homes," said Colombo. "There are over 133,000 homes on the market in Broward-Miami-Dade counties, and some of them were actually abandoned. People in this situation don't like to talk about it, and end up getting hurt because they don't."
Many Americans are unaware that a borrower defaulting on a loan can have an impact on everyone else's well-being and that of the nation. After all, the amount of mortgages due to reset is just a fraction of the United States' $14 trillion economy.
But the series of plunges that Wall Street has suffered in past months prove that no one is immune when mortgages turn sour.
Today's financial system is interconnected: Mortgages are sold to investment firms, which then slice them up and package them as securities based on risk. Then hedge and pension funds buy up such investments.
When home prices kept rising, these were lucrative assets to own. But the ongoing collapse in housing prices has set off a chain reaction: Lenders are tightening their standards, borrowers are having a harder time refinancing loans and the securities that underpin them are in jeopardy.
This has resulted in more than $500 billion of potentially worthless paper on the balance sheets of the biggest global banks -- losses that could spill into the huge pension and mutual funds that also invest in these securities and that the average worker or investor expects to depend on.
There's more pain left for Wall Street: "We're nowhere close to the end of the collapse," said Mark Patterson, chairman and co-founder of MatlinPatterson Global Advisors, a hedge fund that specializes in distressed funds.
"I just assumed banks could stomach these kind of losses," said Wendy Talbot, an advertising executive when asked about the subprime crisis outside of a Charles Schwab branch in New York. "I guess you don't really pay attention to things until your forced to. ... You put out of your mind the worst things that can happen."
The subprime wreckage could dwarf the nation's last big banking crisis -- the failure of more than 1,000 savings and loans in the 1980s. The biggest difference is that problems with S&Ls were largely contained, and the government was able to rescue them through a $125 billion bailout.
But this situation is far more widespread, which some experts say makes it more difficult to rein in.
"What really makes this a doomsday scenario is where would you even start with a bailout?" housing consultant Lawler asked.
Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., a key member of Senate finance and banking committees, said borrowers are the ones who need relief. The playbook to bail out the economy would not be applied to the banks and mortgage originators, but money could be funneled through non-profit organizations to homeowners that need help, he said in an interview with The Associated Press.
"There is a worst-case scenario because housing is the linchpin of our economy, and more foreclosures make prices go down, that creates more foreclosures, and creates a vicious cycle," Schumer said. "You add that to the other weakness in the economy -- on one end is the home sector and the other is the financial sector -- and it could create a real problem."
He also believes Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke should do more to help the economy. Bernanke said in recent comments he has no direct plans to bail out the mortgage industry, but to instead offer relief through cheap interest rates and further liquidity injections into the banking system.
There's also been talk of letting government-backed lenders like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buy mortgages of as much as $1 million from lenders, pay the government a fee for guaranteeing them and then turn them into securities to be sold to investors. This would extend the government's support, and its exposure, to the mortgage market to help alleviate stress.
Either way, the impact of a fresh round of subprime losses remains of paramount concern to economists -- especially since there's little certainty about how it would ripple through the U.S. economy.
"We all know that more hits from these subprime loans are coming, but are having a devil of a time figuring out how it will happen or how to stop it," said Lawler, who was once chief economist for Fannie Mae.
"We've never been in this situation before."
"My child and My
children, the days will grow darker, and there will be hunger in your land. Yes,
My child, what I brought you here for this evening is to tell the world that
there will be a crash in the monetary doings of your government—an absolute
crash that will affect every man, woman, and child in the United States and
Canada, and then, like a serpent, creep all over Europe, until the world sees
one big, massive depression. I can illustrate to you, My children, what I mean
by this monetary depression.
"Should you go and wish to buy a small instrument, even a guitar, that We
hear plucking away at the dervishly, and devilry, of what is called the musical
Mass, strung by guitars, and other creations of satan. My child, I go on to tell
you, you will say that the guitar is not a costly item, but in order to buy this
guitar you will carry an actual satchel, an overnight bag-size, My child—let Us
put it that way clearly—of notes, your currency. It will take a whole suitcase
of paper—paper money that no longer has a value. You will soon be reduced to
bartering for your food.
"My child, I know you are affrighted at this word 'war'; 'death', 'turmoil',
'depression', but what can I do but tell you the truth. I cannot smooth over it,
for I would be accepted like those upon earth who like ostriches, they walk
about, proud in their scientific knowledge."
- Our Lady of the Roses,
September 7, 1985
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A godless nation shall
fall! . . .
"Without
My Son you are lost. A godless nation shall fall. A nation that has been eaten
away and rotted by sin shall fall. A nation that has turned itself back and
regressed to a state of animal living bordering on all sins of the flesh and
impurity; given over to all manner of seeking things of the world; power, lust,
envy, hate, murders, abortions, worship of false idols; loving money, power, and
lacking the instinct of survival when survival can only be reached by pleading
from them to the merciful heart of the Eternal Father." - Our Lady, June
13, 1981
A great money disaster . . .
"My child and My children, pray a constant vigilance of
prayer. Keep this going throughout the United States and all of the nations of
the world, for there is little time left. Soon, in the plans of the Eternal
Father, He shall set forth and allow to come upon mankind, a great money
disaster. In this way it will prove to you that the disaster back in the
1920's, My children, was as nothing compared to what will happen now. I talk of
a great depression coming upon mankind." - Jesus, October 1, 1988
Destruction of the world monetary systems . . .
"You
will understand and broadcast the message to the world that there will be a
great destruction in the monetary systems of the world. It will affect both the
United States and Canada, and all the great powers of the world. And I repeat
again: You will go to your stores to do your shopping carrying papers which may
as well be newspapers, for the value they will have to purchase even food will
be nil.
"How can a great country like the United States fall, you say, My child?
You ask Me in your heart. I read your heart. I will tell you why. Because they
have given themselves over to satan. When a country has lost its morality and
seeks the pleasures of the flesh, giving over, themselves over, to all manner of
abominations, like homosexuality, and condoning this up the highest courts of
the land, then that country shall fall." - Our Lady, November 1, 1985
Gathering of the world's
money to control the masses . . .
"Man
shall not create a new world as he seeks. For there cannot be a lasting world
without His God. And I speak not of the false idols and gods that man creates
in his human nature! There is only one Creator.
"You who cast aside this knowledge and choose to set yourselves up by power
and the gathering of the world's money to control the masses, you will find that
all of your power and all of your volumes of gold and silver cannot hold back
the heavens as they descend upon you in a just chastisement. The world, the
earth shall tremble, fear shall come upon mankind as he watches the approach of
the destruction that he himself has chosen to set loose." - Jesus,
February 10, 1978
Evil force like an
octopus . . .
"There is a great evil force now enshrouding your world; it is like an octopus
reaching out in every direction to ensnare the world. It is a force of evil set
up by satan. There are many arms of the octopus controlled by the monies of the
world.
"For the love of money and riches, many will sell their souls to get to the
head. O My children, what do you gain if you gather all of the riches of the
world and destroy your soul. When you come over the veil, and you will come over
the veil, what will you bring with you - nothing of the material. You must
gather your riches in Heaven now. They are supernatural: the graces, the merits
that will allow you to enter into the Kingdom of
your
God." - Our Lady, June 24, 1976
The Illuminati . . .
"There is a group in the United States and the world, a
group that started many years ago, calling itself the Illuminati, coming from
the word 'light bearer'. Naturally, My children, this light that they bear
stands for Lucifer, and as such they have gone through the world secretly known
as Luciferians. They have brought into your country, the United States, and
your neighbor Canada, a group of witchcraft practices. Well have they laid
their plan to destroy your children with drugs, using your school systems, your
medias of communication, your newspapers, your televisions, your radios: every
means of communication has been infiltrated by the member and sub-members of the
Illuminati, a conglomeration of individuals and powers and principalities
throughout the world, and banking systems. As you well know, My children, money
has always been the root of all evil, and many have sold their souls to get to
the head." - Our Lady, November 25, 1978
You are worshiping idols . . .
"My children, you must change your values back to the plan of your God. As a
nation, as a country, as in many countries throughout the world, you have become
paganized and immoral. My children, it is the gauge for the fall of mankind:
immorality and paganism. No nation shall stand without its God, the God in
Heaven.
"Man is creating many new gods, gods to feed his human nature; and it is a
basic carnal nature. Idolaters abound. When you worship in abundance things, My
children, you are worshiping idols! If you spend your time gathering things,
money, power, you are worshiping idols. Remove yourself from these worldly
pursuits.
"It is a narrow road to the Kingdom of your God, Heaven. Many are called
but few are chosen. The road with satan is wide. Many walk it and can never
leave, because there are too few prayers said for them and by them.
"Nothing is impossible to your God. Man shall never reach the highest
pinnacle of Heaven in knowledge." - Jesus, March 18, 1978
Many will sell their
souls to get to the head . . .
"The road to
Heaven, My children, is a narrow one; too few stay upon it. For they are
often carried away with the cares of the world, and the pleasures of the
materialistic pursuits, and their gathering of money and prestige and power.
For what? For the few short years allotted to each human upon earth.
I ask you to ask yourself: is it worth it to lose your soul? Many will
sell their souls to get to the head." - Our Lady, November 20, 1979
Gather your graces . . .
"You cannot accept
two masters. One you will love, and the other you will learn to hate. And
remember, My children, where your treasures are, your heart will always lie. And
better that you gather your treasures in a place where there is neither rusting,
nor attacks by moths, and robbers cannot take them from you. Store your
treasures in Heaven, My children. Gather your graces. You must ransom your soul
and the souls of your children, your households. Do not wait expecting to be
repatriated at the last moment, My children. Many are coming across the veil
unprepared, and, sadly, they cannot be accepted into the Kingdom." - Jesus,
August 5, 1977
Store canned goods,
water and blankets . . .
"My children, I caution you now, and I wish that you remember these
instructions from several years ago in earth's time that I gave to you, to keep
in your homes a good supply of canned good. They have shelf value, My children,
they will not spoil. But better that you keep them and they spoil than to have
come upon you the great Chastisement. It will be a ball of fire which will
ignite many of the chemicals that are being stored up for the destruction of the
nations.
"My children, not only with the canned foods will you store just food, but
you must also make known to your families and your friends that they had best
keep blankets and water in tight containers; for there will be on the onset of
the Chastisement, there will be nothing that you can buy due to contamination."
- Our Lady, July 1, 1985
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Articles...
U.S. dollar, credit crisis and stock markets:
The great depression of 2008 – the mother of all depressions
https://www.tldm.org/News11/GreatDepressionOf2008.htmTalk of worst recession since the 1930s
https://www.tldm.org/News11/WellsFargoHousingCrisisWorstSinceDepression.htmAlarm: China signals flight from dollar
https://www.tldm.org/News11/ChinaSignalsFlightFromDollar.htmLeading lender H&R Block likens US credit crisis to Great Depression
https://www.tldm.org/News11/H&RBlockLikensCrisisToDepression.htmFed faces gigantic insolvency time bomb
https://www.tldm.org/News11/FedFacesInsolvencyTimeBomb.htmGlobal money markets tighten on cash shortages
https://www.tldm.org/News11/GlobalMoneyMarketsTighten.htmDollar collapse, stock market sell-off looms
https://www.tldm.org/News11/StockMarketSell-offLooms.htmNo time to sit and watch: "What we have on our hands here, folks, is a full-blown, global financial crisis"
https://www.tldm.org/News11/GlobalFinancialCrisis.htmWorld stock markets spiral lower
https://www.tldm.org/News11/WorldStockMarketsSpiral.htmFed OD’s on liquidity but risks depression
https://www.tldm.org/News11/FedRisksDepression.htmU.S. Comptroller General: Learn from the fall of Rome
https://www.tldm.org/News11/ComptrollerGeneralFallOfRome.htmPerfect storm of debt rattles Wall Street
https://www.tldm.org/News11/PerfectStormOfDebt.htmAsian stocks tumble the most in five months on credit concern
https://www.tldm.org/News11/AsianStocksTumble.htmSubprime panic points to taxpayer bailout
https://www.tldm.org/News11/SubprimePanicTaxpayerBailout.htmFed cowardice invites catastrophe
https://www.tldm.org/News11/FedCowardiceInvitesCatastrophe.htmForeign money props U.S. economy
https://www.tldm.org/News11/ForeignMoneyPropsUSEconomy.htmU.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson: Coming financial crash shows need for immediate monetary reform
https://www.tldm.org/News11/PaulsonComingFinancialCrash.htmSlow demise of the mighty greenback
https://www.tldm.org/News11/DemiseOfMightyGreenback.htmCredit spree could cause 1930s-style depression
https://www.tldm.org/News11/CreditSpreeCouldCauseDepression.htmGloom gathers over U.S. economy
https://www.tldm.org/News10/GloomGathersUSEconomy.htmIt’s official: The crash of the U.S. economy has begun
https://www.tldm.org/News10/CrashOfUSEconomyHasBegun.htmThe plan to destroy America - via the dollar
https://www.tldm.org/News9/PlanToDestroyAmericaViaDollar.htmOil producers shun the dollar; Russia and Opec shift revenues into euros, yen and sterling
https://www.tldm.org/News9/OilProducersShunDollar.htmU.S. Comptroller General warns the nation of economic calamity
https://www.tldm.org/news9/MonetaryCrashComptrollerGeneral.htmCentral banks caught in gold squeeze may crush dollar
https://www.tldm.org/News9/goldSqueezeMayCrushDollar.htmForeclosures:
Wells Fargo: Housing crisis worst since Great Depression
https://www.tldm.org/News11/WellsFargoHousingCrisisWorstSinceDepression.htmAugust 2007 report: 11 states have triple digit increases in foreclosures
https://www.tldm.org/News11/TripleDigitIncreasesInForeclosures.htmNew mortgage foreclosures set record
https://www.tldm.org/News11/MortgageForeclosuresSetRecord.htmShiller: U.S. housing woes could spur world slump
https://www.tldm.org/News11/HousingWoesCouldSpurWorldSlump.htmCredit crunch hits the consumer — foreclosures double
https://www.tldm.org/News11/ForeclosuresDouble.htmThe worst isn't over in mortgage meltdown
https://www.tldm.org/News11/MortgageMeltdown.htm
Links...
The crash of 2008?, WorldNetDaily, November 15, 2007
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58726Sub-prime lender says problems are on scale of Great Depression, [U.K.] Times Online, August 31, 2007
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/money/property_and_mortgages/article2358099.eceVideo: Money expert Jim Cramer of CNBC - "They're nuts, they know nothing! ... In the fixed income market, we have Armageddon"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWksEJQEYVUWall Street tremors, Asian markets' tsunami, Forbes.com, August 10, 2007
http://www.forbes.com/markets/2007/08/10/asian-markets-roundup-markets-equity-cx_vk_0810markets03.htmlWorld markets rattled amid Dow Jones crash, ABC News Australia, August 10, 2007
http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/10/2001292.htm?section=businessRisky home loans run a fever, and the market prays it doesn't spread, U.S. News and World Report, July 15, 2007
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/articles/070715/23subprime.htmU.S. dollar facing imminent collapse? WorldNetDaily, December 10, 2006
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53311USA Today report: Real federal deficit 3.5 trillion, Newsmax, August 3, 2006
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/8/3/123820.shtml?s=lh
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