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"It is always someone else's fault, and issues touching on the nature of Islam are ignored" - Cardinal Pell
Cardinal Pell steps in to defend Pope
Benedict...“As your country and the world progresses into deeper darkness, all who stand for and acknowledge My Son will meet with much persecution.” – Our Lady of the Roses, July 25, 1974
The [Australian] Age reported on September 19, 2006:
THE Archbishop of Sydney has drawn a link between Islamists and violence, a strident attempt to defend the Pope just as the pontiff tries to hose down Muslim anger around the world.
Cardinal George Pell says "the violent reactions in many parts of the Islamic world" to a speech by Pope Benedict justified one of the main fears expressed by the world's Catholic leader.
"They showed the link for many Islamists between religion and violence, their refusal to respond to criticism with rational arguments, but only with demonstrations, threats and actual violence," Cardinal Pell said in a statement yesterday.
He also described as "unfortunately typical and unhelpful" attacks on the Pope's comments by two prominent local Muslims, Taj al-Din al-Hilali, the Mufti of Australia, and Ameer Ali, of the Government's Muslim advisory committee.
Security was increased around the Pope yesterday, despite his apology for the offence taken by Muslims for his using of a medieval quotation that linked Mohammad to violence.
Cardinal Pell began his statement by saying it was a sign of hope that no organized violence has flared in Australia after Pope Benedict's recent comments.
"No one compared the Pope to Hitler or Mussolini (as in Turkey) or called for his murder, as Sheikh Malin did in Somalia," he said.
"No group like the League of Jihadists in Iraq promised 'that the soldiers of Mohammad will come sooner or later to shake your throne and the foundations of your state'. Our major priority must be to maintain peace and harmony within the Australian community, but no lasting achievements can be grounded in fantasies and evasions."
Cardinal Pell then detailed his criticisms of Sheikh al-Hilali and Dr Ali.
"It is always someone else's fault, and issues touching on the nature of Islam are ignored," he said.
"Sheikh al-Hilali often responds to criticism by questioning the intelligence and competence of the questioner or critic. So, too, with the Pope, whose speech he claimed was not what was expected of a holy person, and, indeed 'the church needs to re-examine its thoughts about someone who doesn't have the qualities or good grasp of Christian character or knowledge'."
Cardinal Pell criticized Dr Ali for misunderstanding the Pope's speech.
"Dr Ameer Ali's published reply was more surprising as it called on Pope Benedict to be more like Pope John Paul II than Pope Urban II, who called the First Crusade," he said. "In fact, the Pope's long speech was more about the weaknesses of the Western world, its irreligion and disdain for religion.
"And he had explicitly rejected linking religion and violence. He won't be calling any crusade."
Dr Ali said the language used by Cardinal Pell was "not helpful".
"The point is, Pope Benedict quoted a most inappropriate quote at a most inappropriate time," he said.
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Newsmax reported on September 17, 2006:
Pope Benedict XVI has been targeted by the Mujahideen's Army movement in Iraq for a suicide attack, according to the Jerusalem Post.
The threat — revenge for the Pope's recent comments about Islam and jihad — was posted on a Web site used by rebel movements in Iraq. A message posted by the Mujahideen's Army said members of the organization would "smash the crosses in the house of the dog from Rome."
European religious and political leaders have backed the Pope in the wake of the Muslim protests over his academic lecture at Regensburg University Tuesday, saying the Pope's words had been misinterpreted.
"Rather than criticizing Islam, the Pope is actually offering it a helping hand by suggesting that it do away with the cycle of violence," Father Samir K. Samir, one of the Vatican's leading experts on Islam, wrote in the Catholic newspaper Asia News.
The Pope's academic lecture "was trying to show how Western society — including the Church — has become secularized by removing from the concept of Reason its spiritual dimension and origins which are in God," Samir stated.
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The [South Africa] Mail and Guardian Online reported on September 18, 2006:
An Iraqi militant group led by al-Qaeda vowed a war against the "worshippers of the cross" in response to a recent speech by Pope Benedict on Islam that sparked anger across the Muslim world.
"We tell the worshipper of the cross [the pope] that you and the West will be defeated, as is the case in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya," said a statement posted to a website by the Mujahideen Shura Council, an umbrella group led by Iraq's branch of al-Qaeda.
"We shall break the cross and spill the wine. ... God will [help] Muslims to conquer Rome ... God enable us to slit their throats, and make their money and descendants the bounty of the mujahideen," said the statement.
It was posted on Sunday on an website often used by al-Qaeda and other militant groups.
Pope Benedict said on Sunday he was deeply sorry Muslims had been offended by his use of a Mediaeval quotation on Islam and violence.
The remarks outraged Muslims and triggered protests and attacks on churches in several Arab towns.
Another militant group in Iraq, Ansar al-Sunnah, also vowed to fight Christians in retaliation.
"You will only see our swords until you go back to God's true faith Islam," it said in a separate statement on a website.
Al-Qaeda in Iraq and other militant groups have staged suicide bombings and killings of foreign forces and members of the US-allied government and security forces.
"Rome shall soon have a bloodbath; Rome shall suffer in revolution. And why, My children, why must this chastisement come upon the Eternal City? Because they have turned from their God! Too few do penance and atonement! Prayer has been discarded for all materialism and worldly knowledge." - Our Lady of the Roses, June 16, 1977
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Following is the complete speech given by Pope Benedict XVI at the University of Regensburg in Germany on September 12, 2006:
Your Eminences, Your Magnificences, Your Excellencies, Distinguished
Ladies and Gentlemen
It is a moving experience for me to be back again in the university and to be
able once again to give a lecture at this podium.
I think back to those years when, after a pleasant period at the Freisinger
Hochschule, I began teaching at the University of Bonn.
That was in 1959, in the days of the old university made up of ordinary
professors. The various chairs had neither assistants nor secretaries, but in
recompense there was much direct contact with students and in particular among
the professors themselves.
We would meet before and after lessons in the rooms of the teaching staff. There
was a lively exchange with historians, philosophers, philologists and,
naturally, between the two theological faculties.
Once a semester there was a dies academicus, when professors from every faculty
appeared before the students of the entire university, making possible a genuine
experience of universitas - something that you too, Magnificent Rector, just
mentioned - the experience, in other words, of the fact that despite our
specializations which at times make it difficult to communicate with each other,
we made up a whole, working in everything on the basis of a single rationality
with its various aspects and sharing responsibility for the right use of reason
- this reality became a lived experience.
The university was also very proud of its two theological faculties. It was
clear that, by inquiring about the reasonableness of faith, they too carried out
a work which is necessarily part of the "whole" of the universitas scientiarum,
even if not everyone could share the faith which theologians seek to correlate
with reason as a whole.
This profound sense of coherence within the universe of reason was not troubled,
even when it was once reported that a colleague had said there was something odd
about our university: it had two faculties devoted to something that did not
exist: God.
That even in the face of such radical skepticism it is still necessary and
reasonable to raise the question of God through the use of reason, and to do so
in the context of the tradition of the Christian faith: this, within the
university as a whole, was accepted without question.
I was reminded of all this recently, when I read the edition by Professor
Theodore Khoury (Münster) of part of the dialogue carried on - perhaps in 1391
in the winter barracks near Ankara - by the erudite Byzantine emperor Manuel II
Paleologus and an educated Persian on the subject of Christianity and Islam, and
the truth of both.
It was presumably the emperor himself who set down this dialogue, during the
siege of Constantinople between 1394 and 1402; and this would explain why his
arguments are given in greater detail than those of his Persian interlocutor.
The dialogue ranges widely over the structures of faith contained in the Bible
and in the Qur'an, and deals especially with the image of God and of man, while
necessarily returning repeatedly to the relationship between - as they were
called - three "Laws" or "rules of life": the Old Testament, the New Testament
and the Qur'an.
It is not my intention to discuss this question in the present lecture; here I
would like to discuss only one point - itself rather marginal to the dialogue as
a whole - which, in the context of the issue of "faith and reason", I found
interesting and which can serve as the starting-point for my reflections on this
issue.
In the seventh conversation [text unclear] edited by Professor Khoury, the
emperor touches on the theme of the holy war. The emperor must have known that
surah 2, 256 reads: "There is no compulsion in religion".
According to the experts, this is one of the suras of the early period, when
Mohammed was still powerless and under threat. But naturally the emperor also
knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Qur'an, concerning
holy war.
Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded
to those who have the "Book" and the "infidels", he addresses his interlocutor
with a startling brusqueness on the central question about the relationship
between religion and violence in general, saying: "Show me just what Mohammed
brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such
as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached".
The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in
detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something
unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of
the soul. "God", he says, "is not pleased by blood - and not acting reasonably
... is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body.
Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to
reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul,
one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of
threatening a person with death...".
The decisive statement in this argument against violent conversion is this: not
to act in accordance with reason is contrary to God's nature. The editor,
Theodore Khoury, observes: For the emperor, as a Byzantine shaped by Greek
philosophy, this statement is self-evident.
But for Muslim teaching, God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound
up with any of our categories, even that of rationality. Here Khoury quotes a
work of the noted French Islamist R Arnaldez, who points out that Ibn Hazn went
so far as to state that God is not bound even by his own word, and that nothing
would oblige him to reveal the truth to us. Were it God's will, we would even
have to practice idolatry.
At this point, as far as understanding of God and thus the concrete practice of
religion is concerned, we are faced with an unavoidable dilemma. Is the
conviction that acting unreasonably contradicts God's nature merely a Greek
idea, or is it always and intrinsically true?
I believe that here we can see the profound harmony between what is Greek in the
best sense of the word and the biblical understanding of faith in God. Modifying
the first verse of the Book of Genesis, the first verse of the whole Bible, John
began the prologue of his Gospel with the words: "In the beginning was the
Word".
This is the very word used by the emperor: God acts, [text unclear] with logos.
Logos means both reason and word - a reason which is creative and capable of
self-communication, precisely as reason. John thus spoke the final word on the
biblical concept of God, and in this word all the often toilsome and tortuous
threads of biblical faith find their culmination and synthesis.
In the beginning was the logos, and the logos is God, says the Evangelist. The
encounter between the Biblical message and Greek thought did not happen by
chance. The vision of Saint Paul, who saw the roads to Asia barred and in a
dream saw a Macedonian man plead with him: "Come over to Macedonia and help us!"
(cf. Acts 16:6-10) - this vision can be interpreted as a "distillation" of the
intrinsic necessity of a rapprochement between Biblical faith and Greek inquiry.
In point of fact, this rapprochement had been going on for some time. The
mysterious name of God, revealed from the burning bush, a name which separates
this God from all other divinities with their many names and simply declares "I
am", already presents a challenge to the notion of myth, to which Socrates'
attempt to vanquish and transcend myth stands in close analogy.
Within the Old Testament, the process which started at the burning bush came to
new maturity at the time of the Exile, when the God of Israel, an Israel now
deprived of its land and worship, was proclaimed as the God of heaven and earth
and described in a simple formula which echoes the words uttered at the burning
bush: "I am".
This new understanding of God is accompanied by a kind of enlightenment, which
finds stark expression in the mockery of gods who are merely the work of human
hands (cf. Ps 115). Thus, despite the bitter conflict with those Hellenistic
rulers who sought to accommodate it forcibly to the customs and idolatrous cult
of the Greeks, biblical faith, in the Hellenistic period, encountered the best
of Greek thought at a deep level, resulting in a mutual enrichment evident
especially in the later wisdom literature.
Today we know that the Greek translation of the Old Testament produced at
Alexandria - the Septuagint - is more than a simple (and in that sense really
less than satisfactory) translation of the Hebrew text: it is an independent
textual witness and a distinct and important step in the history of revelation,
one which brought about this encounter in a way that was decisive for the birth
and spread of Christianity.
A profound encounter of faith and reason is taking place here, an encounter
between genuine enlightenment and religion. From the very heart of Christian
faith and, at the same time, the heart of Greek thought now joined to faith,
Manuel II was able to say: Not to act "with logos" is contrary to God's nature.
In all honesty, one must observe that in the late Middle Ages we find trends in
theology which would sunder this synthesis between the Greek spirit and the
Christian spirit. In contrast with the so-called intellectualism of Augustine
and Thomas, there arose with Duns Scotus a voluntarism which, in its later
developments, led to the claim that we can only know God's voluntas ordinata.
Beyond this is the realm of God's freedom, in virtue of which he could have done
the opposite of everything he has actually done.
This gives rise to positions which clearly approach those of Ibn Hazn and might
even lead to the image of a capricious God, who is not even bound to truth and
goodness. God's transcendence and otherness are so exalted that our reason, our
sense of the true and good, are no longer an authentic mirror of God, whose
deepest possibilities remain eternally unattainable and hidden behind his actual
decisions.
As opposed to this, the faith of the Church has always insisted that between God
and us, between his eternal Creator Spirit and our created reason there exists a
real analogy, in which - as the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215 stated -
unlikeness remains infinitely greater than likeness, yet not to the point of
abolishing analogy and its language.
God does not become more divine when we push him away from us in a sheer,
impenetrable voluntarism; rather, the truly divine God is the God who has
revealed himself as logos and, as logos, has acted and continues to act lovingly
on our behalf. Certainly, love, as Saint Paul says, "transcends" knowledge and
is thereby capable of perceiving more than thought alone (cf. Eph 3:19);
nonetheless it continues to be love of the God who is Logos. Consequently,
Christian worship is, again to quote Paul [text unclear] worship in harmony with
the eternal Word and with our reason (cf. Rom 12:1).
This inner rapprochement between Biblical faith and Greek philosophical inquiry
was an event of decisive importance not only from the standpoint of the history
of religions, but also from that of world history - it is an event which
concerns us even today. Given this convergence, it is not surprising that
Christianity, despite its origins and some significant developments in the East,
finally took on its historically decisive character in Europe. We can also
express this the other way around: this convergence, with the subsequent
addition of the Roman heritage, created Europe and remains the foundation of
what can rightly be called Europe.
The thesis that the critically purified Greek heritage forms an integral part of
Christian faith has been countered by the call for a dehellenization of
Christianity - a call which has more and more dominated theological discussions
since the beginning of the modern age. Viewed more closely, three stages can be
observed in the programme of dehellenization: although interconnected, they are
clearly distinct from one another in their motivations and objectives.
Dehellenization first emerges in connection with the postulates of the
Reformation in the sixteenth century. Looking at the tradition of scholastic
theology, the Reformers thought they were confronted with a faith system totally
conditioned by philosophy, that is to say an articulation of the faith based on
an alien system of thought. As a result, faith no longer appeared as a living
historical Word but as one element of an overarching philosophical system.
The principle of sola scriptura, on the other hand, sought faith in its pure,
primordial form, as originally found in the biblical Word. Metaphysics appeared
as a premise derived from another source, from which faith had to be liberated
in order to become once more fully itself. When Kant stated that he needed to
set thinking aside in order to make room for faith, he carried this programme
forward with a radicalism that the Reformers could never have foreseen. He thus
anchored faith exclusively in practical reason, denying it access to reality as
a whole.
The liberal theology of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries ushered in a
second stage in the process of dehellenization, with Adolf von Harnack as its
outstanding representative. When I was a student, and in the early years of my
teaching, this programme was highly influential in Catholic theology too. It
took as its point of departure Pascal's distinction between the God of the
philosophers and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
In my inaugural lecture at Bonn in 1959, I tried to address the issue, and I do
not intend to repeat here what I said on that occasion, but I would like to
describe at least briefly what was new about this second stage of
dehellenization.
Harnack's central idea was to return simply to the man Jesus and to his simple
message, underneath the accretions of theology and indeed of hellenization: this
simple message was seen as the culmination of the religious development of
humanity. Jesus was said to have put an end to worship in favor of morality. In
the end he was presented as the father of a humanitarian moral message.
Fundamentally, Harnack's goal was to bring Christianity back into harmony with
modern reason, liberating it, that is to say, from seemingly philosophical and
theological elements, such as faith in Christ's divinity and the triune God. In
this sense, historical-critical exegesis of the New Testament, as he saw it,
restored to theology its place within the university: theology, for Harnack, is
something essentially historical and therefore strictly scientific.
What it is able to say critically about Jesus is, so to speak, an expression of
practical reason and consequently it can take its rightful place within the
university. Behind this thinking lies the modern self-limitation of reason,
classically expressed in Kant's "Critiques", but in the meantime further
radicalized by the impact of the natural sciences.
This modern concept of reason is based, to put it briefly, on a synthesis
between Platonism (Cartesianism) and empiricism, a synthesis confirmed by the
success of technology.
On the one hand it presupposes the mathematical structure of matter, its
intrinsic rationality, which makes it possible to understand how matter works
and use it efficiently: this basic premise is, so to speak, the Platonic element
in the modern understanding of nature.
On the other hand, there is nature's capacity to be exploited for our purposes,
and here only the possibility of verification or falsification through
experimentation can yield ultimate certainty. The weight between the two poles
can, depending on the circumstances, shift from one side to the other. As
strongly positivistic a thinker as J Monod has declared himself a convinced
Platonist/Cartesian.
This gives rise to two principles which are crucial for the issue we have
raised. First, only the kind of certainty resulting from the interplay of
mathematical and empirical elements can be considered scientific. Anything that
would claim to be science must be measured against this criterion. Hence the
human sciences, such as history, psychology, sociology and philosophy, attempt
to conform themselves to this canon of scientificity.
A second point, which is important for our reflections, is that by its very
nature this method excludes the question of God, making it appear an
unscientific or pre-scientific question. Consequently, we are faced with a
reduction of the radius of science and reason, one which needs to be questioned.
I will return to this problem later. In the meantime, it must be observed that
from this standpoint any attempt to maintain theology's claim to be "scientific"
would end up reducing Christianity to a mere fragment of its former self.
But we must say more: if science as a whole is this and this alone, then it is
man himself who ends up being reduced, for the specifically human questions
about our origin and destiny, the questions raised by religion and ethics, then
have no place within the purview of collective reason as defined by "science",
so understood, and must thus be relegated to the realm of the subjective. The
subject then decides, on the basis of his experiences, what he considers tenable
in matters of religion, and the subjective "conscience" becomes the sole arbiter
of what is ethical.
In this way, though, ethics and religion lose their power to create a community
and become a completely personal matter. This is a dangerous state of affairs
for humanity, as we see from the disturbing pathologies of religion and reason
which necessarily erupt when reason is so reduced that questions of religion and
ethics no longer concern it. Attempts to construct an ethic from the rules of
evolution or from psychology and sociology, end up being simply inadequate.
Before I draw the conclusions to which all this has been leading, I must briefly
refer to the third stage of dehellenization, which is now in progress. In the
light of our experience with cultural pluralism, it is often said nowadays that
the synthesis with Hellenism achieved in the early Church was a preliminary
inculturation which ought not to be binding on other cultures.
The latter are said to have the right to return to the simple message of the New
Testament prior to that inculturation, in order to inculturate it anew in their
own particular milieux. This thesis is not only false; it is coarse and lacking
in precision. The New Testament was written in Greek and bears the imprint of
the Greek spirit, which had already come to maturity as the Old Testament
developed. True, there are elements in the evolution of the early Church which
do not have to be integrated into all cultures. Nonetheless, the fundamental
decisions made about the relationship between faith and the use of human reason
are part of the faith itself; they are developments consonant with the nature of
faith itself.
And so I come to my conclusion. This attempt, painted with broad strokes, at a
critique of modern reason from within has nothing to do with putting the clock
back to the time before the Enlightenment and rejecting the insights of the
modern age.
The positive aspects of modernity are to be acknowledged unreservedly: we are
all grateful for the marvellous possibilities that it has opened up for mankind
and for the progress in humanity that has been granted to us.
The scientific ethos, moreover, is - as you yourself mentioned, Magnificent
Rector - the will to be obedient to the truth, and, as such, it embodies an
attitude which belongs to the essential decisions of the Christian spirit.
The intention here is not one of retrenchment or negative criticism, but of
broadening our concept of reason and its application. While we rejoice in the
new possibilities open to humanity, we also see the dangers arising from these
possibilities and we must ask ourselves how we can overcome them. We will
succeed in doing so only if reason and faith come together in a new way, if we
overcome the self-imposed limitation of reason to the empirically verifiable,
and if we once more disclose its vast horizons.
In this sense theology rightly belongs in the university and within the
wide-ranging dialogue of sciences, not merely as a historical discipline and one
of the human sciences, but precisely as theology, as inquiry into the
rationality of faith.
Only thus do we become capable of that genuine dialogue of cultures and
religions so urgently needed today. In the Western world it is widely held that
only positivistic reason and the forms of philosophy based on it are universally
valid. Yet the world's profoundly religious cultures see this exclusion of the
divine from the universality of reason as an attack on their most profound
convictions.
A reason which is deaf to the divine and which relegates religion into the realm
of subcultures is incapable of entering into the dialogue of cultures. At the
same time, as I have attempted to show, modern scientific reason with its
intrinsically Platonic element bears within itself a question which points
beyond itself and beyond the possibilities of its methodology.
Modern scientific reason quite simply has to accept the rational structure of
matter and the correspondence between our spirit and the prevailing rational
structures of nature as a given, on which its methodology has to be based. Yet
the question why this has to be so is a real question, and one which has to be
remanded by the natural sciences to other modes and planes of thought - to
philosophy and theology.
For philosophy and, albeit in a different way, for theology, listening to the
great experiences and insights of the religious traditions of humanity, and
those of the Christian faith in particular, is a source of knowledge, and to
ignore it would be an unacceptable restriction of our listening and responding.
Here I am reminded of something Socrates said to Phaedo.
In their earlier conversations, many false philosophical opinions had been
raised, and so Socrates says: "It would be easily understandable if someone
became so annoyed at all these false notions that for the rest of his life he
despised and mocked all talk about being - but in this way he would be deprived
of the truth of existence and would suffer a great loss".
The West has long been endangered by this aversion to the questions which
underlie its rationality, and can only suffer great harm thereby. The courage to
engage the whole breadth of reason, and not the denial of its grandeur - this is
the programme with which a theology grounded in Biblical faith enters into the
debates of our time. "Not to act reasonably, not to act with logos, is contrary
to the nature of God", said Manuel II, according to his Christian understanding
of God, in response to his Persian interlocutor.
It is to this great logos, to this breadth of reason, that we invite our
partners in the dialogue of cultures. To rediscover it constantly is the great
task of the university.
Our Lady of the Roses' Awesome
Bayside Prophecies...
https://www.tldm.org/Bayside/
These prophecies came from Jesus, Mary, and the saints to Veronica
Lueken at Bayside, NY, from 1968 to 1995:
A RELIGIOUS WAR
"The battle, My child, will accelerate very shortly for there will not only be a great war of weapons of mankind, but it will be known soon throughout the world as a religious war. It will be the war against the antichrist, who is here now!” - Our Lady, August 21, 1974ARABIAN SABRE
Veronica - And I can see now Jesus and Our Lady are going high up into the sky, and there's forming directly over Our Lady's statue, high in the sky—it is a cross, a very large cross. The handle, though, of a . . . dagger—it looks like a dagger, a knife. It's a strange-looking dagger with a loop at the bottom, like. It's a symbol. And Jesus is nodding.
Jesus - "You will understand, My child, soon."
Veronica - Yes, it is a, like a saber. Gee, it, it's a very strange-looking, dagger-like saber, with a cross on a handle. Like—it's not the kind that you see—it looks almost like Arabian or something. I can't explain it—like a very strange-looking Arabic, or something. I don't know where I have seen that before, but it's a very odd-looking type of dagger-like sword, with a hook on the end of it, though. That's strange. Oh, now it's beginning to fade; I can't see it anymore. - December 24, 1979WORLD WAR III
Veronica - . . . Our Lady now is looking down sadly. And I see She's pointing now to what looks like a map. Oh, my!
Now as I am watching—it's a map of... oh, I can see Jerusalem, and Egypt, Arabia, French Morocco, Africa. Oh, my goodness! There seems to be a very dense darkness now settling upon those countries. Oh, my!
And Our Lady is saying:
Our Lady - "The start of the Third World War, My child." - March 29, 1975ISRAEL IN FLAMES
Veronica - ... and there's another map. And I see Israel, and countries about it; they're all aflame....
"The wars shall increase, and the carnage shall increase, and those who are living will often envy the dead, so great will be the suffering of mankind.... When he left the Eternal Father he turned to satan, and this is his reward." - Our Lady, June 30, 1984AN ARABIAN SABER
Veronica - And I can see now Jesus and Our Lady are going high up into the sky, and there's forming directly over Our Lady's statue, high in the sky—it is a cross, a very large cross. The handle, though, of a . . . dagger—it looks like a dagger, a knife. It's a strange-looking dagger with a loop at the bottom, like. It's a symbol. And Jesus is nodding.
Jesus - "You will understand, My child, soon."
Veronica - Yes, it is a, like a saber. Gee, it, it's a very strange-looking, dagger-like saber, with a cross on a handle. Like—it's not the kind that you see—it looks almost like Arabian or something. I can't explain it—like a very strange-looking Arabic, or something. I don't know where I have seen that before, but it's a very odd-looking type of dagger-like sword, with a hook on the end of it, though. That's strange. Oh, now it's beginning to fade; I can't see it anymore. - December 24, 1979SYRIA HOLDS THE KEY
Our Lady - "Wars are a punishment for man's sins. Syria holds the key to peace at this time. However, I place in front of you, My children, a graphic picture for you to understand. It will be a parable for some, and some will turn away not willing to hear what Heaven has to say in these desperate times."
Veronica - Our Lady is pointing up with Her finger, like this, to Her right side, and high above Her the sky is opening up—all the clouds are floating away and the sky is opening up and I see a map of the Mideast. And then Our Lady is pointing up farther and that's another map of China and Russia. Our Lady is turning back now: She was looking upward also.
Our Lady - "My child and My children, there are scoffers who will say there shall not be a Third World War. They do not know and cannot conceive of the plan of the Eternal Father. Be it known now that the Father has great heart for all His children, but when the sin reaches a peak only known to the Father the amount of sin among mankind, then the Father will take action." - May 28, 1983A WORLD AFLAME
"Syria has the key to the solution of world peace or the Third World War. It will be the destruction of three-quarters of the world. A world aflame, with also the Ball of Redemption." - Our Lady, May 30, 1981"MY HOME"
"Wars are a punishment for man's sins. My children, My heart is torn. I stand with you observing your road, the path you are traveling. Many lives shall be lost in the great War.
"The forces of evil are gathering about the city of Jerusalem. I walked there, My children. My home will be destroyed. There shall be much blood shed upon My home." - Our Lady, June 24, 1976A WORLD AFLAME
"Syria has the key to the solution of world peace or the Third World War. It will be the destruction of three-quarters of the world. A world aflame, with also the Ball of Redemption." - Our Lady, May 30, 1981JERUSALEM & PALESTINE
Our Lady - "You ask, My child, how this situation evolved. It was not in the plan of God to bring the great Chastisement upon you at this time. It is the will of man that has forced His hand upon you.
"The great plague and darkness will come before the Ball of Redemption.
"Gradually you will find the extinction of man evolving from the earth. The Father does not plan to completely eradicate man from earth as He did during the time of Noah, choosing only a few to set up the Kingdom.
"There will be a great War..."
Veronica - And over to the left side of the flagpole there's written a word: "YELLOW AGAINST WHITE - WHITE AGAINST BLACK", and then there's a large cross over the world. It's a globe of the world, and there's blood dripping over on one side. And there's a pool of blood; it's like a river. And now the word comes out from inside the blood, and it says: "PALESTINE" P - A - L - E - S - T - I - N - E, and underneath, "JERUSALEM." - March 25, 1973
Directives from Heaven... https://www.tldm.org/directives/directives.htm
D136 - Visions of the Great War: The Mideast
D156 - Terrorism
D157 - Revolution in Rome
D266 - Persecution
Articles...
Archbishop Chaput candid about Islamic persecution of Christians
https://www.tldm.org/News8/IslamicPersecutionOfChristians.htmAl-Qaida suspect urges Rome's destruction
https://www.tldm.org/News6/RevolutionInRome.htmAl Qaida to Italy: "A bloodbath similar to Sept. 11 awaits you"
https://www.tldm.org/News7/bloodbath.htm
Links..
Benedict the Brave: The Pope said things Muslims need to hear about faith and reason, Wall Street Journal, September 19, 2006
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008963Muzzling the Pope, Frontpage magazine, September 19, 2006
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=24453Why the Pope was right, [U.K.] Times Online, September 18, 2006
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C6-2362630%2C00.htmlPope Benedict did not insult Islam, Michael Gaynor, September 18, 2006
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/gaynor/060918Islam: The appeal and the peril, Donald DeMarco
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/persecution/pch0033.htmlPope Benedict need not apologize for history, Bonnie Alba, September 18, 2006
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/alba/060918
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