| Home - Latest News | Introduction | Bayside Prophecies | Directives from Heaven | Shopping Cart | Testimonies | Veronica Lueken | Miraculous Photos | Bible | Radio Program | Bayside Videos |

surrogacy These Last Days News - September 16, 2024
URGENT: Forward a link to this web page to your clergy, family, friends and relatives.

Gay Marriage and Surrogacy: Purchasing Children and Eradicating Society...

"Man shall not condone evil or rationalize sin. Homosexuality is an abomination in the eyes of God and man! The Creator condemns those who do not repent of this sin." - Our Lady of the Roses, August 5, 1977

"My child, there is also one thing I wish to discuss with you for the world, for all of the world's children to know, how Heaven feels about their diabolical search for life in a test tube.  Yes, My child, I know this shocks you, but you are fully aware of what is going on. Your news medias seem to enjoy putting these evils before your eyes and your ears and your readings. Yes, We frown upon surrogate mothers.  We shall not tolerate the making of children from one to the other.
     "The sacrament of Marriage was given for the union of man and woman in love and godliness. There is nothing godly about a man who sets himself up to play God and starts revolving innocent - I prefer to call My children innocent, because in that way I do not refuse them even penance for their sins but they must know that you cannot bring life in a test tube.  This will not be accepted by Heaven.
     "These children are not conceived by the Holy Ghost, the spirit within them at the moment of conception, because their conception is from a test tube, and an instrument of a so-called doctor upon earth.  He is a doctor, not of divinity but of sin...
     "Therefore, My children, I must tell you this, there will be a major war between the right and the wrong side, the left and the right, over this issue.  We will not have test tube babies, for they are not born with a soul.  They can only, then, be called a 'thing', a 'creature' unknown. Is this what you want, My children? Is this what you want of these children you bear for another?  To give them as though you were machines, manufacturing them for another?"
- Jesus, June 18, 1987

The above Messages from Our Lady were given to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, New York. Read more

CatholicHerald.co.uk reported on September 12, 2024:

By Gavin Ashenden

The family courts have found themselves being asked to adjudicate the question of whether a homosexual couple who have bought a child from a surrogate mother can subsequently eradicate her from the child’s life.

The Daily Telegraph on 9 September reported the court case, heard at the Royal Courts of Justice, where a gay couple (known as “X” and “Y”) sought to break the commercial agreement with a surrogate mother, and were trying to ban her from seeing the biological son (known as “Z”) that she had sold to the couple.

The agreement they had entered into with her included the mother being able to see the child every six weeks. But they suddenly unilaterally broke that agreement, and on one occasion, even threatened to call the police when she turned up to the house for a prearranged visit.

 “X” and “Y” complained, describing the mother (“G”) as seeking a “destabilising relationship” with the child and accused her of making him “more clingy, unsettled and crying”.

On the one hand the local council supported the two “fathers” in their revocation of the parental order and attempt to formally adopt the child as step parents, which would have extinguished the mother’s legal connection with the child.

On the other side, a child psychologist submitted evidence that the two men were seeking an “erasure” of the mother. Indeed, in their evidence supporting their claim for adoption, “X” and “Y” said there was “no vacancy for a mother in their family”.

They also asserted to the court that seeing the mother again would “send a confusing and potentially harmful message to [the child] that his fathers are not enough and his family with them is incomplete or inadequate”.

The judge took into account the child’s wish to see the mother again, but attempted to impose a compromise: that the child should continue living with “X” and “Y”, while the mother should continue to have access to her son, with the judge advising the parties to try to repair their relationship.

Perhaps one should expect a family law court to attempt some form of reconciliatory compromise. It is a statutory expectation. But while it may be a jurisprudential requirement, it is a philosophical, psychological, political and social mess, full of ideological contradictions and incoherence; incapable of a compromise.

A number of elements offer surprise here: not least the absence of any recognition that in a hierarchy of human rights, those of a child, or a pre-born child, should come somewhere near the top.

It’s not hard to understand how two homosexual men should find themselves in a position where they found it pragmatically in their interests to attempt to eradicate not only the biological mother but also the category of motherhood from their domestic arrangements.

But it is hard to understand why there is no public voice expressive of a public conscience that is aware of not only how hard-wired, in evolutionary terms, is the relationship between mother and child, but also of how important it is that a child have access to both a masculine and a feminine parental figure to facilitate a balanced capacity to interrelate to both sexes in life. 

In terms of developmental psychology, such a capacity provides a foundation on which rests so much of emotional and human development.

It should be noted that this instance of surrogacy was one of the least-worst cases, which allowed for some maternal contact as a condition of surrogacy. There are very many cases where no allowance is ever made for a child to know, let alone have contact with, a biological parent.

Beyond the facts of this particular case lie a series of principles that are of fundamental importance. What happens to society and children if you break the link of biological parenthood?

The reason that ethics proves to be so difficult is that it involves pitching different claims of virtue against each other.

The secular arguments in favour of same-sex marriage were originally mainly based on compassion for gay couples who felt hurt and excluded from what they thought ought to comprise “normality”; or felt ostracised because their “unions” were not affirmed by wider society.

The current move to the commodification of children through paid surrogacy is one of the most sinister and ethically problematic developments that followed the legislation permitting gay marriage. Strangely, to some of us, wider society seems to have little difficulty with the ethics of this.

There was almost no public outcry or concern.

The ethical principle that took the top place in the moral podium appears to be the right of a same-sex couple to the happiness of becoming a family by emulating commercially and artificially what a heterosexual family produced naturally.

But it’s not philosophically clear that anyone, or any couple, has a “right” to happiness, and what does seem extraordinary is that there seems no public concern for the rights of children in such cases to have access to both biological parents.

The least worst-case scenario is one in which the purchasing couple – of whom one might be a natural parent – at least allow the child to know who the other biological parent is.

But there always lurks a fear for the new parents that “nature” might reassert itself; that the child would come to long for or miss the absent biological parent; and this would overshadow the careful plans to frame the arrangements within the structured “nurture” of imposing the new biologically blended family.

Few people were aware when gay marriage was proposed that there would be other consequences contingent on the eradication of the heterosexual character.

One immediate one was the abolition of adultery as a ground of divorce since no one was able to provide a definition of what degree of sexual intimacy amongst lesbians – thereby between two women – constituted adultery, akin to the intimacy definition of penetration between a man and a woman.

But worse than writing adultery out of the legislation, which also has the function of expressing what is and is not socially acceptable, is the social re-engineering of the role of mother and father.

This has had the effect of placing post-Christian secularism in direct opposition to Christian faith and the Biblical message:

“In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. God blessed them, and God said to them, ‘Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth’.”

This eradication began with mother and father being removed from birth certificates in a number of legislatures. It developed further with the introduction of the fluidity of gender as a new social construct. And now it is moving to the eradication of the rights of children to access, know and discover both biological parents.

What began as the commercialisation and commodification of children through the business of surrogacy turned out to be only the beginning of a process that would eradicate the value, integrity and identity of not only fatherhood and motherhood, but of marriage and of the family as we have always understood them.

If you remove the glue that holds everything and everyone together, it should be no surprise if things and people fall apart.

Be sure to email this page to all your friends.

NOT JUDGING
"When a priest tells you that you do not have to speak up, out against homosexuality, because you are judging another person, and you should love your neighbor and therefore never set him up to be judged, you are not judging. If a person is doing wrong, and you tell him in a kind manner, a charitable manner, that they are committing a sin, and that they will lose their soul and go to purgatory, or even hell, that is not judging. You are helping and loving your neighbor. What is love?" - Our Lady, June 18, 1982

GOOD FATHERS
"Homosexuality shall never be accepted. In the writings of the good Fathers, My child and My children, you were made fully aware in the Old and the New Testament of the Book of life and love, the Bible—you had been made full aware of the dastardly acts of mankind, as men consort with men. This shall not be accepted nor condoned by the Eternal Father even if He has to send another plague upon you." - Jesus, August 21, 1985

We urgently need your prayers and financial support to be able to continue to create these web pages. Click here... Thank you in advance.

Wars are a punishment for man's sins. Abortion, homosexuality, and the changes in the Catholic Church cry out to Heaven for just punishment.
When you pray the Holy Rosary, you have Our Lady's hand in your hand. When you pray the Holy Rosary, you have the power of God in your hands. Start now! Let's All Pray the Rosary that Our Lord and the Catholic Church to take great action against those who subvert Church teachings...
Click here...

The Virgin Mary's Bayside Prophecy Books are Now Available in E-book Version. Click Here Now!

Our Lady of the Roses Awesome Bayside Prophecies... https://www.tldm.org/Bayside/ These prophecies came from Jesus, Mary, and the saints to Veronica Lueken at Bayside, NY, from 1968 to 1995.

Directives from Heaven... https://www.tldm.org/directives/directives.htm

D24 - Homosexuality, Part 1  PDF Logo PDF
D55 - Test-Tube Babies  PDF LogoPDF
D167 - The Family - Part 1 PDF Logo PDF 
D168 - The Family - Part 2 PDF Logo PDF
D174 - Homosexuality, Part 2 PDF Logo PDF
D175 - Defilement of the Young PDF Logo PDF
D176 - Sodom and Gomorrah PDF Logo PDF
D195 - Cloning  PDF Logo PDF
D196 - Life Begins at Conception  PDF LogoPDF
D205 - Sin is insanity PDF Logo PDF

Your names have been written in Heaven… "It is not by accident that you are called by My Mother, for your names have been written in Heaven.... But with this great grace you have great responsibility to send this Message from Heaven throughout the world, for if you are able to recover just one more for Heaven, an additional star shall be placed in your crown." - Jesus, August 5, 1975

A great obligation to go forward... "It is not by accident that you are called by My Mother, for it is by merit and the prayers that have risen to Heaven for your salvation. For those who have received the grace to hear the Message from Heaven, you have a great obligation to go forward and bring this Message to your brothers and sisters. Do not expect a rest upon your earth, for you will have eternal rest very soon." - Jesus, June 12, 1976

The sin of omission... "The sin of omission shall condemn many to hell, be they layman or Hierarchy. I repeat: not the sin of commission, but the sin of omission will commit many to hell." Our Lady of the Roses, October 6, 1980

My gift to help spread Our Lady of the Roses' messages to the world.

Comments

We encourage everyone to print or email copies of this web page to all the Bishops and all the clergy. Also, email or send this web page to the news media and as many people as possible.

Email this page to a friend.

| Home - Latest News | Introduction | Bayside Prophecies | Directives from Heaven | Shopping Cart | Miracles & Cures | Veronica Lueken | Miraculous Photos | Bible | Radio Program | Bayside Videos |

The electronic form of this document is copyrighted.
Quotations are permissible as long as this web site is acknowledged with a hyperlink to: http://www.tldm.org
Copyright © These Last Days Ministries, Inc. 1996 - 2024   All rights reserved.
P.O. Box 40                   616-698-6448
Lowell, MI 49331-0040
Revised: September 16, 2024